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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2023-06-06 01:34 pm

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 96

absurdities and atrocitiesAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-06 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Dear John Michael Greer and forumistas,

Thank you for making this possible. It gives me great, great solace to see this open anew each Tuesday.

Cetiosaurus

(Anonymous) 2023-06-06 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Back in the original hypothesis, you outlined an endgame, stage 11, where the deaths became impossible to ignore, triage became the order of the day, governments proclaim the arrival of the predicted hyper-lethal variant and new rounds of shutdowns and the like come. Given the death rates are rising, to the point where it's getting hard to ignore, do you still think that's plausible?

I'm trying to figure out what happens now, but it's increasingly looking to me like your hypothesis was right in broad outline, just off with timing and (maybe) the cause of the deaths....

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, thank you JMG and all contributors. I'm seldom able to read through all the discussion threads, but knowing that the community is here each week to check in with is a great solace.

Dylan

Hope on Tuesday

[personal profile] roobyalien 2023-06-07 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
I second your sentiment Cetiosaurus.

Often I see the new Tuesday post and I wait for someone to write something and contemplate things I could share.

Thank you JMG and all forumistas for the anchor you have provided me these last years. I consider this my community even though I am not a frequent contributor.

Rooby

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
"CDC Warns That Pride Events Could Spawn Massive Monkeypox Outbreak"
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cdc-warns-pride-events-could-spawn-massive-monkeypox-outbreak
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[personal profile] kimberlysteele 2023-06-07 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
Where to even begin with that plexiglass photo... That cannot be real, yet part of me is like, yeah Kim, it's real. How are they supposed to exercise when they've got plexiglass that close to their bodies? Plus the horror novelist in me envisions the carnage that would ensue with the mildest of earthquakes, and they would almost deserve such a grisly fate for being that dumb... sheesh.

Canadian Cancer Patients to USA

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
I saw this when I checked the KOMO news site the other day:

https://komonews.com/news/local/british-columbia-canada-vancouver-bc-bellingham-whatcom-county-cancer-care-health-public-government-funds-vulnerable-payments-cascade-center-joseph-peace-diagnosis-minister-universal-system

My family lives in the Seattle area, so I check the local "news" several times a week. Canadian breast and prostate cancer patients are being sent to Washington state for treatment, as Vancouver lacks the capacity/facilities to do so.

Make of it what you will...

[personal profile] coyote_girl 2023-06-07 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
So we had to lock down, leaving old people to die alone, isolate children and steal critical years of their lives they will NEVER get back to stop the sniffles, but promiscuous disease vector events are okay.

These agencies and their policies only make sense if the objective is to maximize harm and suffering with a big helping of corruption.

Sounds like devils to me. People would do well to keep far, far away from them. The endgame does not look like it will be pretty.

Quote from the article:
Adding to the potential crisis, the CDC also acknowledged that it was exploring a theory that the monkeypox virus “may have evolved mutations to evade the two-dose Jynneos vaccines that were rolled out last year to protect against it,” CBS News reported.

Gee, another vaccine failure. Who could have imagined?
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[personal profile] open_space 2023-06-07 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
This is not medical advice, nor homeopathical advice for that matter. But here is a paper by the Mexican National Institute of Medicine and Homeopathy about a group of homeopathic therapies for COVID-19. Since some people have gotten reinfections recently or had sequels, I figured it would be good to share in case anyone would like to consult a licensed homeopath to chat about it.

A group of homoeopathic medicines for COVID-19: A systematic review of clinical features

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 07:46 am (UTC)(link)
I was talking with a guy from work who had a horrific reaction to the vax and almost died. While in the hospital hanging on for dear life he felt completely disconnected from god, transforming him from semi-religious into an obnoxious atheist. Our conversation on the subject began when he started choking like a cat trying to cough of up a hairball. He said it happens to him regularly now, which is pretty terrifying. Also the part of his personalty that made him charming despite his numerous faults is rapidly disappearing and now he's becoming more belligerent. It's like a six year old trapped in a sixty year old body. He reminds me of the descending beast on The Wheel card. I think I'm actually witnessing someone being dragged off to hell, and it's probably time for another banishing ritual tonight because after hanging out too long in his atmosphere I feel kinda gross.

[personal profile] deathcap 2023-06-07 11:06 am (UTC)(link)
I've not had much to say over the past couple weeks but I'm still here lurking.

I can't say this is an oasis from the insanity because nowadays nobody wants to talk about matters...the insanity seem sto have largely died down. Though it seems like a lot more people have droopy eyelids than they used to. Beyond that, it's like discussion of COVID has dried up. I'd say it all felt like a bad dream but it's still ongoing as a background concern.

I'll be reading this and scrolling through every comment until it goes away. And it's infinitely better than the comment sections on substack...which are in turn better than the comments anywhere else.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)
When I first heard about Monkeypox, one of the first things I thought about was the late, great, Australian, Frank Fenner, who's credited with overseeing the program that exterminated smallpox - which is another orthopox virus.

Do you think Fenner, who was convinced (at least in his later years) that overpopulation would lead to extinction of the human race, perhaps within as little as a hundred years, ever regretted his role in eliminating that particular scourge?

And what are the origins of this 'Monkeypox' again? Another lab 'leak' perhaps? I wouldn't put it past the eggheads after what's happened recently. In fact, given recent events, I can't help but wonder if the egghead's masters haven't also considered Fenner's grave warning.

The Ninth Mouse
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natto

[personal profile] michele7 2023-06-07 12:40 pm (UTC)(link)
A few posts back, the benefits of natto on covid had a small but lively thread. One person asked about fermenting natto without using commercial spores. I'd like to share my experience. After falling down the YouTube rabbit hole of watching umpteen "how to make natto" videos using plants as a source of the Bacillus subtilis, I used celery stalks as my bacillus source. I have celery growing in my garden, so I cut a few stems, stripped off the leaves, boiled them for a minute to get rid of any other bacteria. The fermentation was successful, but the natto sticky threads were not as strong as the commercial natto spore batch. I did find one source that used fig leaves and stated that the natto threads were as strong as commercially made natto. That will be my next batch since I have fig trees in our garden. I encourage any one who wants to try natto, but doesn't or can't get the spores to give a plant source of natto spores a try. Some videos I watched used mint stems, basil leaves and celery stalks.

An update

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 12:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Hello!

Can we have an update on your views of how events will unfold concerning the vaccinated?

Regards

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 02:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I think we're seeing the early stages of it in the employment/jobs/disability numbers.

Tons of jobs. Not enough people who can/will fill them. Disability numbers soaring.

At least part of that is people simply leaving formal employment for greener pastures: informal work, shadetree businesses. But a big chunk of it may be a lot of people, at all levels, who are no longer able to hold down a job. In "nice" professions, this looks like a bunch of people taking early retirement. In gruntwork, this just looks like businesses cutting their hours, closing lobbies, or automating their checkouts because they can't get enough humans to fill the jobs. Maybe some of that is not offering enough $$ to make it worthwhile. I don't think that's the whole picture.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
"Maybe some of that is not offering enough $$ to make it worthwhile. I don't think that's the whole picture."

Well, I'm in the midst of a round of job hunting, and will say I've never seen so many good jobs open to hiring and offering to pay as much as I do right now. They may suck, and likely some of them will, but right now it looks like the absolute best job market I've ever seen for employees. So, unless these jobs have some sort of hidden evil, I simply can't imagine that this is even much of a factor at all.

The degree of flexibility on display is also unprecedented, so the only explanation that makes sense to me is that there are a ton of people out there who are simply unable to work.

Re: natto

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Did not see the previous discussion on natto - I used store-bought natto as starter, 24hours in the yogurt crock-pot. Stringiness (ie.sliminess) is as in the seed patch. It truly is strange stuff, I need to make myself eat it, but just a little peek on overall effects makes me a convert. I am thinking the biofilm, the slime is probably the good stuff. Difficult to think offering it to anyone to eat, but the benefits are pretty convincing. An interesting thing to think about: are we eating for pleasure or utility? If you need to choose, can you (can I) choose utility?

[personal profile] deathcap 2023-06-07 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I 100% believe it. Why? Well, lemme tell you. My local pool decided during 2020 to use the floaty pool rope things to divide the pool into 6 by 6 foot squares which you had to reserve ahead of time so you could be six feet apart in an outdoor chlorinated swimming pool.

I wish I was kidding, but no, that seriously happened! Location: Fayette County GA.

Silliest thing I've ever seen.

[personal profile] boccaccio 2023-06-07 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Last week, a poster linked to Rintrah who mentioned the steep increase in the Netherlands of people with memory and concentration problems. This was according to a newsbulletin of health agency RIVM. The news bulletin from RIVM is based on a quarterly inquiry that looks into symptoms that could be associated with Covid. It is based on reports from GP's but only looks for certain afflictions that are associated with Covid and its aftermath.

There is more beside the memory and concentration problems. RIVM reported also that there was a peak in heart arrythmia and dizziness in the first quarter of 2023. This is not a good sighn of course. I was hoping that now that the vaxxination spree and Covid itself have quieted down, the incidence of heartproblems would start approaching pre-Covid levels. That is obviously not the case.

Link: https://www.rivm.nl/gezondheidsonderzoek-covid-19/kwartaalonderzoek-volwassenen


PS I found this monitor of cancer incidence in the Netherlands. Till end of 2022 there was no increase, despite the situation in the US where according to The Ethical Sceptic a steep increase is going on. Unfortunately IKNL discontinued producing the numbers, so no information over 2023 is available. https://iknl.nl/monitor%20
Edited 2023-06-07 19:54 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
...and what a nightmare that would be if somebody had an emergency and the lifeguard had to jump in! Good luck with the rope maze.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
If this is the case, I'd *kind of* expect to see it more in physically demanding jobs-- the sort where you have to be on your feet all day (warehouse runners, food service, nurses), or where the job description says you have to be able to lift 50 or 100 pounds. BUT it might also be happening in cognitively demanding fields, given what we're hearing about neurological effects. It's just... I'm not sure it'd be as clear-cut there, because those workplaces are also more likely to have a lot of BS jobs that don't demand much at all, and that might mask the problem a bit.

If it's not too nosy, what sorts of jobs are you seeing this in?
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Ecosophia Prayer List

[personal profile] tunesmyth 2023-06-07 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Here are all of the requests for prayer that have recently appeared across the Ecosophia community. Please feel free to add any or all of the requests to your own prayers.

If I missed anybody, or if you would like to add a prayer request for yourself or anyone who has given you consent (or for whom a relevant person holds power of consent) to the list, please feel free to leave a comment below.

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This week I would like to bring special attention to the following prayer requests.

JH's mother-in-law Sue, who lives in Spain, has had a severe arthritis affliction in her knee that has left her unable to walk for weeks now, leaving her more or less bed bound; for prayers and/or healing energy for swift resolution of the issue and swift recovery of her ability to walk.

Tanamous's friend's brother David got in a terrible motorcycle accident and has been diagnosed as a quadriplegic given the resultant spinal damage; for healing and the positive outcomes of upcoming surgeries and rehabilitation, specifically towards him being able to walk and live a normal life once more.

One of [personal profile] open_space's best friends, Patricio Lopez de Nava Amezcua, was shot and killed last week; for the safe and pleasant passing of his soul. (Photo of Patricio here.)

Nicole's (shewhoholdstensions) 41 year brother Robert died suddenly in bed on May 15th; for a smooth and blessed journey on the other side. Robert was a single dad and he leaves behind three children: Hannah, Zack, and Jordyn; that they and Nicole be blessed and protected, and find what comfort they can during this very difficult time. (Update here.)

Lp9's request on behalf of their hometown, East Palestine Ohio, for the safety and welfare of their people and all living beings in the area. (Lp9 gives updates here and most recently here, and says "things are a bit... murky"), and the reasonable possibility seems to exist that this is an environmental disaster on par with the worst America has ever seen. At any rate, it is clearly having a devastating impact on the local area, and prayers are still warranted.

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Guidelines for how long prayer requests stay on the list, how to word requests, how to be added to the weekly email list, how to improve the chances of your prayer being answered, and several other common questions and issues, are now to be found at the Ecosophia Prayer List FAQ.

If there are any among you who might wish to join me in a bit of astrological timing, I pray each week for the health of all those with health problems on the list on the astrological hour of the Sun on Sundays, bearing in mind the Sun's rulerships of heart, brain, and vital energies. If this appeals to you, I invite you to join me.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-07 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Apparently there has been a big increase in the number of brain abscesses in children. According to this article, it began in May of 2021.

https://www.sciencealert.com/abnormal-surge-of-brain-abscesses-in-american-children-cdc-says

Since this can be a side-effect of respiratory infections, the article says that this underscores the need for children to remain up to date on their COVID 19 vaccinations. It also includes speculation that this unusual occurrence might have been caused by the lifting of mask mandates. Science reporting at its finest, folks.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-08 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
There was a lady at my local pool lap swimming with a mask. Everyone had to listen to her sputter and gasp for 10 minutes until she finally gave up. It was like slow motion drowning.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-08 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, Kimberly, you must remember the 6-foot circles painted on the grass in urban parks and the strange plastic igloos that restaurants placed in the street gutters in front of their establishments for your dining pleasure... and safety, of course! I remember watching people "enjoying?" their meals in those igloos in the dead of winter because each one had a tower gas heater in it. I kid you not! I couldn't figure out what was most likely to kill the occupants if that fire should spread — breathing the toxic fumes from the melting plastic sheeting and PVC framing or full-body burns from the instantly ignited plastic tarps, dripping down in flaming rivulets on them and their most-likely flammable clothing.

I mean, come on, those sudden-death bubbles made the vaccines look like a relatively safe choice in comparison. Let's not talk about what they looked like in a heavy wind! Only once did I pass by two that had been viciously twisted by a fierce storm into a bent, torn, and deflated mess, half on the sidewalk, half on the street. The risks people were willing to take in order to signal to their peers that they hadn't yet fallen out of the class that could still afford to eat and be seen in the "right" places were simply jaw-dropping.

Surely, you haven't already forgotten the delightful check-out-aisle plexiglass, have you? How was anyone supposed to be able to shop when they've got giant plexiglass walls separating [protecting?] the cahsiers from the customers? That was particularly ludicrous when the stores then taped off a square that you were required to obediently stand in, but which didn't allow you to get to the credit card keypad or hand the cashier any cash.

Any time I got reprimanded for leaving the sacred quarantine square to insert my credit card at the wrong time, I would then dutifully put my card away and get out cash instead. It was always so funny to watch the abusively over-controlling and neurotic cashier then try to get me to leave the quarantine square to hand them my money. Oh, no way, Baby, I am way too obedient for that — you're likely to end up straining a muscle trying to reach around that plexiglass barricade to get my money now!

Mostly, I felt like the cashiers were just as victimized as the rest of us, but woe to the unthinking fool who took it upon himself to enforce the reining covidiocy on me. Did they really think they were going to effortlessly defeat me in their social-signalling flame war? Had they never consider that I might be able to weaponize passive obedience at least as effectively as they were? Child, I will take that conformist straight jacket you're trying to make me wear and turn it into something so non-conformist you wish you had never put in my hands! As Mr. T used to say, "I pity the fool."

— Christophe

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