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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2023-05-23 02:23 pm

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 94

another lovely dayAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-25 12:15 pm (UTC)(link)
You can fool all of the people some of the time, and you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

On the surface, it's all been swept under the rug, but institutional trust has collapsed. The fanatics continue to shriek that The Science is the word of God, but their strategic control of media/tech is the only thing keeping them afloat.

I have an autoimmune disease. Was it caused by one of the vaccines I got as a kid? I wouldn't have considered the possibility until I witnessed the failure and rug-sweep of the covid vaccines. There's probably a lot of people like me.

Sawdust

(Anonymous) 2023-05-25 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Sawdust, I have reevaluated many things in my personal health history as a result of the nuttiness of 2020-present. I cannot say that I know for sure, but now I find it likely that a really unusual, out-of-the-blue episode I had many years ago with TMJ came on as a consequence of a vaccination I had for tetanus.

And I know way too many people, after the annual flu shots became a thing, who suddenly developed shellfish and other food allergies.

Don't get me started about the kids with autism and nut allergies.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-25 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
The tetanus shot gave me a giant red hot lemon under my skin for days.
And I didn't feel any too well either!

(Anonymous) 2023-05-26 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
FWIW, that's considered normal and good--most people's arms swell up after tetanus shots, because the immune system goes OMG OMG OMG there's tetanus toxoid CALL THE MILITIA!!!! Also there's an adjuvant added, to add to the all-hands-on-deck reaction.

I'm not saying it's great, just that it's an expected effect ;)

--Ms. Krieger

(Anonymous) 2023-05-25 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't have my childhood medical records, or even most of the ones from ten-plus years ago. But I've been wondering a great deal about whether routine childhood vaccinations played any part in my developing diabetes in elementary school many years ago. And whether a tetanus booster brought on two more autoimmune conditions in adulthood. Hell, I went deaf in one ear one day after a TB test in my 20's. (No, not a vaccine, but clearly something clearly intended to provoke an immune response by the introduction of foreign proteins.)

I don't trust a damned thing the medical experts say any longer.
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[personal profile] thinking_turtle 2023-05-26 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)

There's probably a lot of people like me.

Perhaps. I wonder about my own history and I can't help but seeing the many diseased children and youths. But where I live in The Netherlands, you really can't mention the vaccines as a probable cause. Nobody goes there.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-27 10:36 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, it's remarkable how strong of a taboo there is against having any doubt about any vaccine. The same people who denounce opiod manufacturers and pay extra for antibiotic-free eggs and dairy will think you're crazy if you say, Hey maybe these pharmaceuticals also don't live up to the hype. It really is a religious belief.

Sawdust