ecosophia | Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 94

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Flat | Top-Level Comments Only

I can tell you that a lot of people here, California USA, and probably other places don't know this happened or how they were treated.

My latest data point on this, I was talking to one of my offspring that has been heavily ensconced in a post grad program, about money and why I keep paying with cash alot and don't want to lose that ability( I bought various things, lunch, my Amtrak ticket home etc... while visiting with cash), and I brought up the Canadian truckers and how the ATM cards and all charge cards were cut off both for peaceful protesters and for people who voiced support for them. I received a chilled, startled look and the comment " that is really messed up" I managed to quickly find an article from the time when I got home and emailed it as proof that I am not loosing my mind, or at least not in this case.

You know, these young people, and I think most people really around here, they just carry these little combination handheld computer/tracking devices with them wherever they go to use to get all products and services they need and to communicate and to map out where they are going.

It should be chilling for them to think that with no notice, all of a sudden they might no t be able to pay for an Uber home, buy food, gasoline for a car, pay for parking, pay their rent. Nada. No notice, no hearing, no recourse AND not be able to go to a bank branch or ATM and get cash out either to go that route.

Atmospheric River

The kids think they are very "moderne"-- as I call it. I hear them say, "there is no choice" (ha, where and when have I heard that before?) but to go digital.

That sort of argument made more sense to me 20 years ago-- I saw then how many older people resisted the new digital wonders, from ebooks to social media, etc etc. I dove right into the deep end, starting in the late 80s. Let's call that a Many Years' Long Learning Experience. Now, by the 2020s, I have become one of the older people resisting the new digital wonders-- the difference is, I'm not resisting because I'm an old fuddyduddy, but because, from broad experience, I am keenly aware of dangers and where this leading.

I always ask, who benefits from your having "no choice"? Whydoncha noodle on that for a second or three...

What is crucial, I think, is leading by example. I try to do what you are doing, pay with cash whenever possible, especially in small family businesses in my neighborhood. I know they really appreciate that since the credit card companies take a big cut.

Back to healthcare issues: I like very much the providers who take cash.

Turns ou tmy dentist accepts cash and gives a discount. You never know until you ask. I di of course know that he doesn't take any insurance, but hadn't thought about the cash

Atmospheric River

There are lots of medical service providers, and including hospitals, that will give a hefty discount if you pay cash. But you have to ask them about it. Oftentimes people don't know to ask, or they are too sick and/or the family member who is caretaker too overwhelmed, to ask.

A good resource for informing youngsters on the dangers of digitization is Brett Scott, author of Cloud Money. He's speaking to left-leaning PMC-types (covered in the Guardian, blurb from Yanis Vafourakis, etc), but from what I can tell he makes all the right points, and in a manner that can't be easily be dismissed as "far-right conspiracy loon" or whatever.

Today's conspiracy theory is tomorrow's conspiracy fact.

Conspiracy Theorist

It's good when they become aware of their digital vulnerability; even better if the awareness leads them to position themselves differently.

This theme has been well treated in science-fiction classics. In the future _argot_ he invented for his novel _The Shockwave Rider_, Brunner coined the verb "deevee" (presumably from "devalue," or "de-validate"). As I recall it is always in the passive voice. When you are deeveed, every economic or social service (controlled through a worldwide electronic network) stops working for you.

Gray Hat

Oh yeah.

Siri what is Winston Smith?

"Siri what is Winston Smith?"

This comment made me giggle all day. Thanks for this!

Ron M

"Siri what is Winstin Smith?" kinda sums it up out there.

LoL

I'm sort of an old-school computer guy. Not like UNIX and FORTRAN or anything, but been using computers long enough to remember when I had to make custom boot disks to get my computer games to run on MS-DOS. Off and on I've done things like build my own mail server just for fun, and I was one of the IT guys at a large factory for a while. So I'm not afraid of computers.

Nowadays, though, I definitely don't want to rely on computer technology for anything important. That's because I understand what a teetering house of cards the whole thing is. Nobody really understands it; and it could come crashing down at any moment. That and the fact that many of these systems seem to be in the hands of ideologues who use them against their political/ideological enemies.

And, right on cue, the Babylon Bee has the perfect headline regarding the technical difficulties Twitter had handling all the DeSantis traffic this week.

"Biden Says Anyone Can Crash Twitter, It Takes A Real Leader To Crash Economy"

( https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-says-anyone-can-crash-twitter-it-takes-a-real-leader-to-crash-economy )

I'm going to try to broach the subject with my kid, (mid-20s) when we take a little road trip this weekend. Who knows? Like Mark Twain, my kid may eventually be amazed at how much the old man has learned....

We all dread Windows updates for a reason-- because 1 update in 10, they kill your computer and then you have to figure out how to undo the damage.

That's my home computer, and I can do most things without it so whatever. But should we really trust it to run the sewage treatment plant?

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