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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2023-02-26 11:36 pm

Magic Monday

George Cecil JonesIt's almost midnight, so we can proceed with a new Magic Monday. Ask me anything about occultism and I'll do my best to answer it. With certain exceptions, any question received by midnight Monday Eastern time will get an answer. Please note:  Any question received after then will not get an answer, and in fact will just be deleted. (I've been getting an increasing number of people trying to post after these are closed, so will have to draw a harder line than before.) If you're in a hurry, or suspect you may be the 143,916th person to ask a question, please check out the very rough version 1.0 of The Magic Monday FAQ hereAlso: I will not be putting through or answering any more questions about practicing magic around children. I've answered those in simple declarative sentences in the FAQ. If you read the FAQ and don't think your question has been answered, read it again. If that doesn't help, consider remedial reading classes; yes, it really is as simple and straightforward as the FAQ says. 

The picture?  I'm working my way through photos of my lineage, focusing on the teachers whose work has influenced me and the teachers who influenced them in turn.  Like Allan Bennett, who we discussed last week,
this week's honoree was a teacher of Aleister Crowley. George Cecil Jones was the man who introduced Crowley to the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, and later on helped Crowley found the Argenteum Astrum (Order of the Silver Star, or A∴A∴), the first of the two magical orders the Not-so-great Beast headed during his lifetime. (The other, the Ordo Templi Orientis or OTO, will be discussed next week.) Jones was a working chemist and metallurgist as well as a serious student of the occult. He practiced the magical virtue of silence more effectively than most of his contemporaries, however, and very little seems to be known about him.

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***This Magic Monday is now closed. See you next week!***

Re: "Hail Idun" Variants, and Any Questions of Which to Ask More?

[personal profile] hearthculture 2023-02-28 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
The short answer was good enough for me, perhaps the most valid answer you could give :)
Annnnd, I appreciate the narrative and explanation, and I understand your poems better with this backstory. Perhaps what I'm feeling critical of is that your relationship is so embedded into the poems that they feel more like a praising or orphic hymn than the Hail Mary. (I actually like them more thinking of them this way - particularly the first and the third.)

I've been thinking through my reactions to your "Hail Idun"s in light of this new info, and reframing my thoughts with Idun in the place of Frigg.

Another shot at what I see as more in line with the Hail Mary, because I believe it better explains my view than I can if I continue pontificating.

Hail Idun,
Yggdrasil's Seed,
Wife of verse,
Mother of rejuvenation.

Blessed Idun,
The Gods renewer,
Bless me with bravery,
That I may meet you in Valhalla.


Thank you for the conversation; I'm full of thought and inspired.
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Re: "Hail Idun" Variants, and Any Questions of Which to Ask More?

[personal profile] jprussell 2023-02-28 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts and this prayer, it is also filling me with thought and inspiration. When divination suggested I should post something on my "Hail Idun" this week, I was skeptical, because I wasn't happy with any of the variants as poetry yet, but your response and others make me think I needed these inputs, and the only way to get them was to put something out for folks to respond to.