39:35 DR. PETER A. MCCULLOUGH: Dr. Harvey Risch* appeared with me on Laura Ingraham, the Ingraham Angle, and he presented a case, a vignette from the CDC Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, and it was a breastfeeding mother who, ill-advised took the vaccine, and then a few days later the baby suffers a hemorrhagic death. And you can imagine, a breastfeeding infant, how rare that would be to have some horrific thing happen to the baby. And Dr. Risch just presented it, said, listen, here's just a case example.
In your view as a doctor who looks after children, but probably advises many as they move into womanhood, should a woman ever, while they're pregnant or breast feeding, consider one of these vaccines?
DR. MICHELLE PERRO: That's an easy, that's simple, no. No, no, and then again no. Because number one, I mean, it's not like the placenta protects the fetus from whatever the mother receives. Whatever the mother receives the baby receives. The placenta is not a barrier, there's an open exchange, right? Absolutely. And then of course through the breastfeeding everything's transmitted through the breast, but also we know that the vaccine is, people who have been vaccinated transmit spike protein through their breath, through the skin, this [?] nanotechnology. And I've had a lot of people unvaccinated who develop symptomatology from those around especially recently vaccinated.
DR. PETER A MCCULLOUGH: OK, I want to pick up on this. So this is shedding. This is the most common question I get, of shedding. And all of you listening to the McCullough Report who are going to ask about shedding, I'm here with Michelle Perro, and Michelle is an expert, she's from California. And I want to hear your clinical experience. What have you have you seen that you clinically think are legitimate shedding vignettes?
DR. MICHELLE PERRO: Absolutely. And you know, and I would share with you that I live in an area that's highly vaccinated. So there have been a lot of people around shedding. And I myself experienced it. Recently-vaxxed-with-a-booster friend, that I didn't know, because if I hear someone's recently boosted, I run for the hills. My own husband had to go into, he didn't get boosted, but he had to go into the other room for a-- another story, Peter. But anyway, I picked up on this. I got vertigo. And I had to use all the techniques I knew to clear my vertigo immediately after being with her. Never had vertigo. Vertigo is spinning, for the listeners. And I thought, no, baby. And so I used the various of techniques to help clear that spike protein, including things to dissolve spike, things to bind spike, things to clear spike. I did everything.
DR. PETER A MCCULLOUGH: So what did you do? Because people, this is the most common question I get. Just, I mean, now again, we don't have large randomized trials, we don't have government research. Governments are not acknowledging vaccine injuries, let alone even shedding. But we're hearing from an expert today, Dr. Perro. What did you do for yourself?
DR. MICHELLE PERRO: I'll tell you what I did. And remember, Peter, there was a time where case reports were what physicians read. Remember the case report? I would read those with gusto, thinking like, oh, a clinical case, what did you do?
So this is what I did. Because I have no doubt in my mind I got, I call it spikeproteinitis, spikeproteinopathy, whatever you want to call it, from my friend.
First of all, I took Ivermectin. And I took it to bind spike.
DR. PETER A MCCULLOUGH: How much?
DR. MICHELLE PERRO: I took 12 milligrams twice a day and I took it for three weeks because my vertigo wasn't clearing. It was getting better, but it wasn't clearing. That was the first thing I did.
I took NAC, N-acetyl cysteine, the precursor of glutathione the master antioxidant in your body. I took 900 milligrams twice a day. 11-AC, and you need a lot of antioxidant to protect you from being oxidized because the basis of all disease is oxidation, which is loss of electrons. This is the basis of every disease, autoimmunity, cancer, etc. So I took NAC. I'm a big fan.
I took zinc with circadin. And circadin helps zinc get into cells, it's a zinc ionophore. And I took zinc picolinate which is a zinc that I like as an integrative practitioner. And I took 25 milligrams of zinc a day. I didn't want to do more than that for myself because zinc and copper are in a balance, so you don't want to over zincify because then you can throw your copper out of balance. And you need copper as a metalloenzyme for a lot of reactions in your body. So be careful with that zinc-copper relationship.
Some people say take 50 milligrams of zinc a day. Maybe you get away with it, but I started with 25, knowing about the copper and I didn't want to offset it.
The circadin I took about 200 milligrams twice a day. You can take way more than that, but that's what I started with, and seeing how I did. OK.
I did vitamin D. I take vitamin D with K2. I never take Vitamin D alone, because it can offset calcium. I took 10,000 a day. Why? because it's a hormone. It's great for immune function. I decided to alert my body that it needed some assistance. Alright?
I didn't feel like I was getting covid. Like, how did I know I wasn't getting covid? Because I didn't have the things I see with initial onset of covid. Most of my patients who first get covid get brain fog, fatigue. The initial symptoms are brain fog and fatigue. We're not seeing in the [?] and all that, at least initially. Then they start getting the other symptoms, the profound myalgias [muscle aches and pains]. So it's, when they start getting the weird brain fog and the fatigue, then I know they're going to get covid. I didn't have any of that. I just had the vertigo.
DR. PETER A. MCCULLOUGH: That is such an important encapsulation. And these are suggestions, again, not proven. But I want to anticipate, we're years away from conclusive studies to even nail this down.
Now what have you seen clinically, in terms of a shedding vignette? A patient comes in and tells you something. What have you seen that's most tractable and most significant?
DR. MICHELLE PERRO: I'd have to say, of all the things I've seen, and this is mostly the moms of my patients, is that, abnormal menses. And the women report, those who've been exposed to vaxxed and they start from, let's say, the shedding, heavy bleeding, more frequent bleeding, menorrhagia, and menometrorrhagia, and women who've been in menopause starting their period again, bleeding.
DR. PETER A. MCCULLOUGH: From shedding or the vaccine or both?
DR. MICHELLE PERRO: From both. Because these people are [?] living in a highly vaccinated community. And I knew when these peaks were coming is because when they pushed the boosters. I think the booster was like, the really bad, like, nail in the coffin. As if not the first two were benign, but it was that booster that really got things going. So I think those GYN, the bleeding thing got me really concerned. And I read the spike, you know concentrating in the ovary, you know. It likes fatty tissue, and likes bone marrow, likes the brain, likes other—
DR. PETER A. MCCULLOUGH: Right, so on my twitter feed today I just reposted the really good review by Bret Weinstein, Steve Kirsch and Robert Malone on the Japanese bio-distribution study which clearly showed lipid nanoparticles accumulating over the course of 48 hours in the ovaries of mammals that were in this study. No messenger RNA involved, just the lipid nanoparticles.
And in a paper from China before Covid 19, that I've also summarized multiple times, shows that the lipid nanoparticles do concentrate in the corpus luteum of the ovaries.
So it makes sense, installation of the code for the spike protein, disrupting cells. I literally had my last guest on the McCullough Report from Greece indicated, he thinks every cell that takes up the genetic material and expresses the spike protein is killed.
DR. MICHELLE PERRO: Well, I feel that to be true, too. I think that's actually accurate.
* Dr. Harvey Risch MD, PhD is Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Scientist in Epidemiology (Chronic Diseases); Affiliated Faculty, Yale Institute for Global Health https://ysph.yale.edu/profile/harvey_risch/
Dr. Perro talks to Dr. McCullough about what to do about shedding
"Maternal Instincts and the Health of Children"
The McCullough Report Podcast on America Outloud
by Dr. Peter McCullough
April 18, 2022
https://www.americaoutloud.com/maternal-instincts-and-the-health-of-children/
TRANSCRIPT -- EXCERPT ON SHEDDING
39:35
DR. PETER A. MCCULLOUGH: Dr. Harvey Risch* appeared with me on Laura Ingraham, the Ingraham Angle, and he presented a case, a vignette from the CDC Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, and it was a breastfeeding mother who, ill-advised took the vaccine, and then a few days later the baby suffers a hemorrhagic death. And you can imagine, a breastfeeding infant, how rare that would be to have some horrific thing happen to the baby. And Dr. Risch just presented it, said, listen, here's just a case example.
In your view as a doctor who looks after children, but probably advises many as they move into womanhood, should a woman ever, while they're pregnant or breast feeding, consider one of these vaccines?
DR. MICHELLE PERRO: That's an easy, that's simple, no. No, no, and then again no. Because number one, I mean, it's not like the placenta protects the fetus from whatever the mother receives. Whatever the mother receives the baby receives. The placenta is not a barrier, there's an open exchange, right? Absolutely. And then of course through the breastfeeding everything's transmitted through the breast, but also we know that the vaccine is, people who have been vaccinated transmit spike protein through their breath, through the skin, this [?] nanotechnology. And I've had a lot of people unvaccinated who develop symptomatology from those around especially recently vaccinated.
DR. PETER A MCCULLOUGH: OK, I want to pick up on this. So this is shedding. This is the most common question I get, of shedding. And all of you listening to the McCullough Report who are going to ask about shedding, I'm here with Michelle Perro, and Michelle is an expert, she's from California. And I want to hear your clinical experience. What have you have you seen that you clinically think are legitimate shedding vignettes?
DR. MICHELLE PERRO: Absolutely. And you know, and I would share with you that I live in an area that's highly vaccinated. So there have been a lot of people around shedding. And I myself experienced it. Recently-vaxxed-with-a-booster friend, that I didn't know, because if I hear someone's recently boosted, I run for the hills. My own husband had to go into, he didn't get boosted, but he had to go into the other room for a-- another story, Peter. But anyway, I picked up on this. I got vertigo. And I had to use all the techniques I knew to clear my vertigo immediately after being with her. Never had vertigo. Vertigo is spinning, for the listeners. And I thought, no, baby. And so I used the various of techniques to help clear that spike protein, including things to dissolve spike, things to bind spike, things to clear spike. I did everything.
DR. PETER A MCCULLOUGH: So what did you do? Because people, this is the most common question I get. Just, I mean, now again, we don't have large randomized trials, we don't have government research. Governments are not acknowledging vaccine injuries, let alone even shedding. But we're hearing from an expert today, Dr. Perro. What did you do for yourself?
DR. MICHELLE PERRO: I'll tell you what I did. And remember, Peter, there was a time where case reports were what physicians read. Remember the case report? I would read those with gusto, thinking like, oh, a clinical case, what did you do?
So this is what I did. Because I have no doubt in my mind I got, I call it spikeproteinitis, spikeproteinopathy, whatever you want to call it, from my friend.
First of all, I took Ivermectin. And I took it to bind spike.
DR. PETER A MCCULLOUGH: How much?
DR. MICHELLE PERRO: I took 12 milligrams twice a day and I took it for three weeks because my vertigo wasn't clearing. It was getting better, but it wasn't clearing. That was the first thing I did.
I took NAC, N-acetyl cysteine, the precursor of glutathione the master antioxidant in your body. I took 900 milligrams twice a day. 11-AC, and you need a lot of antioxidant to protect you from being oxidized because the basis of all disease is oxidation, which is loss of electrons. This is the basis of every disease, autoimmunity, cancer, etc. So I took NAC. I'm a big fan.
I took zinc with circadin. And circadin helps zinc get into cells, it's a zinc ionophore. And I took zinc picolinate which is a zinc that I like as an integrative practitioner. And I took 25 milligrams of zinc a day. I didn't want to do more than that for myself because zinc and copper are in a balance, so you don't want to over zincify because then you can throw your copper out of balance. And you need copper as a metalloenzyme for a lot of reactions in your body. So be careful with that zinc-copper relationship.
Some people say take 50 milligrams of zinc a day. Maybe you get away with it, but I started with 25, knowing about the copper and I didn't want to offset it.
The circadin I took about 200 milligrams twice a day. You can take way more than that, but that's what I started with, and seeing how I did. OK.
I did vitamin D. I take vitamin D with K2. I never take Vitamin D alone, because it can offset calcium. I took 10,000 a day. Why? because it's a hormone. It's great for immune function. I decided to alert my body that it needed some assistance. Alright?
I didn't feel like I was getting covid. Like, how did I know I wasn't getting covid? Because I didn't have the things I see with initial onset of covid. Most of my patients who first get covid get brain fog, fatigue. The initial symptoms are brain fog and fatigue. We're not seeing in the [?] and all that, at least initially. Then they start getting the other symptoms, the profound myalgias [muscle aches and pains]. So it's, when they start getting the weird brain fog and the fatigue, then I know they're going to get covid. I didn't have any of that. I just had the vertigo.
DR. PETER A. MCCULLOUGH: That is such an important encapsulation. And these are suggestions, again, not proven. But I want to anticipate, we're years away from conclusive studies to even nail this down.
Now what have you seen clinically, in terms of a shedding vignette? A patient comes in and tells you something. What have you seen that's most tractable and most significant?
DR. MICHELLE PERRO: I'd have to say, of all the things I've seen, and this is mostly the moms of my patients, is that, abnormal menses. And the women report, those who've been exposed to vaxxed and they start from, let's say, the shedding, heavy bleeding, more frequent bleeding, menorrhagia, and menometrorrhagia, and women who've been in menopause starting their period again, bleeding.
DR. PETER A. MCCULLOUGH: From shedding or the vaccine or both?
DR. MICHELLE PERRO: From both. Because these people are [?] living in a highly vaccinated community. And I knew when these peaks were coming is because when they pushed the boosters. I think the booster was like, the really bad, like, nail in the coffin. As if not the first two were benign, but it was that booster that really got things going. So I think those GYN, the bleeding thing got me really concerned. And I read the spike, you know concentrating in the ovary, you know. It likes fatty tissue, and likes bone marrow, likes the brain, likes other—
DR. PETER A. MCCULLOUGH: Right, so on my twitter feed today I just reposted the really good review by Bret Weinstein, Steve Kirsch and Robert Malone on the Japanese bio-distribution study which clearly showed lipid nanoparticles accumulating over the course of 48 hours in the ovaries of mammals that were in this study. No messenger RNA involved, just the lipid nanoparticles.
And in a paper from China before Covid 19, that I've also summarized multiple times, shows that the lipid nanoparticles do concentrate in the corpus luteum of the ovaries.
So it makes sense, installation of the code for the spike protein, disrupting cells. I literally had my last guest on the McCullough Report from Greece indicated, he thinks every cell that takes up the genetic material and expresses the spike protein is killed.
DR. MICHELLE PERRO: Well, I feel that to be true, too. I think that's actually accurate.
[END OF EXCERPT]
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TRANSCRIBER'S NOTES:
Peter A. McCullough's website is https://www.petermcculloughmd.com
Dr. Michelle Perro's website is https://drmichelleperro.com
* Dr. Harvey Risch MD, PhD is Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Scientist in Epidemiology (Chronic Diseases); Affiliated Faculty, Yale Institute for Global Health
https://ysph.yale.edu/profile/harvey_risch/