Someone wrote in [personal profile] ecosophia 2023-01-16 11:21 am (UTC)

We shall see - it's amazing what people will tolerate.

Plus, in the historical example provided the perpetrators were easy to identify and locate. Are the perpetrators so easy to identify and locate this time?

It seems like responsibility for this is spread all over. Everyone from news readers and social media influencers to doctors, politicians, elites etc. all over the world.

How do you take revenge or seek justice against all that?

It's everywhere.

And it's not necessarily in the town where you live either.

Who, what, where, when, why and how?

They're second-rate players in my country. Sure they played along, helped make this crap too I'm sure, sold us all out, etc. etc. but they were part of a global phenomenon and if that phenomenon has a center, it's not located in Oz. Plenty of its 'missionaries' and 'paladins' are obviously here in Oz, just like they are located in every other country in the West, but I don't think Oz was the birthplace of this disaster.

So, how do you seek justice for a 'transgression' when its main designers, implementers and enforcers don't even live in your own country?

Does it even have a center that could be targeted?

Responsibility is diffused.

Reminds me of the bombing of Hiroshima. If one were to think of that as a crime, who would be guilty of committing it? Would it be the aircrew? The politicians? The generals? The bomb designers? The ground crew? The navy that transported the bomb? Etc, etc, etc.

It seems like the way the industrial-technological system works means that nobody is truly solely at fault or responsible for some crimes/disasters because everyone involved only plays a part of the whole activity and responsibility gets spread around so nobody can be held to account.

Some token justice might happen, but to really get justice one would have to target an enormous range of players. It might even amount to a civil war, which is probably too extreme for most people to countenance, unless the circumstances get so extreme as to warrant it, but we mustn't be there yet because nothing like that seems to be happening and it might never happen either, unless things get truly catastrophic and/or the elites/authorities push too hard.

My guess is that the system will probably just pay a few people off and that will be that apart from some extra disillusionment and lack of trust etc. - unless events go catastrophically wrong.

Hopefully though it will all just fizz away into nothing, although I don't really believe that it will - the architects of this will be back, if they even go anywhere, and lots of measures that are brought in to handle a crisis never end up getting wound back.

I suppose nothing is really resolved one way or the other yet really.

This thing just seems to keep on dragging on, gradually wearing everyone down, with no immediate catharsis like in the historical justice the plague doctors received to be had at all. In that sense, it's a disaster that's more in tune with our times :P

The Ninth Mouse

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