Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 74

[ecosophia]

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

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Relation Coronavirus prevalence and excess mortality

[boccaccio]

Today Dutch CBS released the mortality data for the last two weeks of 2022. It shows that excess mortality peaked in week 51 (Dec 19 - Dec 25) at 28.6% and then declined in week 52 to 17.0%. Unless many people who died after Christmas haven't been administrated yet, this means that week 51 saw the peak of the current wave of excess mortality and that we now are on the downward slope of that wave.

This development in in sync with the sewage data that show the peak of the current wave on December 23th, and since then a decline.

Covid 19 is only a very small part of the excess mortality, but the virus prevalence is (again!!) seen to be a very good indicator of the excess mortality. Earlier I noted this pattern in the Delta wave of October/November 2021 and in the Omicron waves since last September, but there has been no scientific proof of the mechanism behind it. Rintrah recently made waves recently speculating it is due to tolerance.

I'll keep an eye on the data to see if there will be corrections in the mortality data and if the sewage data indeed keep going down after Dec 23th (data available only till the 26th), but tentatively it looks like this unexplained synchronicity in de data continues.

Links:
Sewage data https://coronadashboard.rijksoverheid.nl/landelijk/rioolwater
Mortality data in the excell file downloadable here https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/maatwerk/2023/01/overledenen-per-week-provincie-en-gemeente-week-52-2022
Expected mortality here https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/nieuws/2022/49/oversterfte-in-november-lager-dan-in-oktober (implied in graph)

Re: Relation Coronavirus prevalence and excess mortality

[methylethyl]

If the Aus data is anything to go by, there's a bigger-than-usual data lag in December, because even people in government offices take a break at Christmas, so I wouldn't count anything from December as final, particularly if it looks like numbers are dropping (numbers of anything-- deaths, infections, births, marriages...). Would wait at least another month or two to make any calls on it.

Re: Relation Coronavirus prevalence and excess mortality

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, 28.6% beats Australia's best effort so far.

I'm starting to think that we might see waves of deaths of increasing amplitude over time. People appear to have permanently damaged immune systems and to be getting progressively weaker. Thus normal waves of infection passing through could claim successively greater numbers of casualties.

Australia had a jump in deaths in Jan-Feb 2022, which at the time I associated with the booster campaign in late 2021.

We'll have to wait and see whether we get another wave and how high it goes. People are still boosting here, but not to the same extent. Perhaps deaths will become disconnected from recent booster rates due to damage already done.