ecosophia | Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 74

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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"My heart and is was in the right place."

Should read "My heart is and was in the right place."

My brain auto-corrected the mis-ordered words the first time I read it.

Back on topic though, I guess that's what they'd say.

I had a friend say something along the lines of how crazy it was to want to not take the vaccines, and who'd want to survive anyway if it turns out to have been a suicidal move. I suppose he was thinking of the Omega Man or something.

But it's also sort of mistaking things - I got the sense from his tone that he was attributing humans with the ability to change reality with the power of will alone. As if choosing not to vaccinate was somehow magically willing poor outcomes on others, and that surviving was somehow willfully sadistic.

Very weird. Upside down and inside out covidworld. But I can sort of see how he would arrive at that in the kind of weird way that dreams and emotions seem to have a logic of their own.

Perhaps it's a narcissistic trait to bring down others out of envy or whatever? And if they've stuffed up their immune systems, and made a big public mess out of everything, they have something to envy and to be ashamed of. Narcissists hate that sort of thing. I can imagine them burning the world down rather than admitting a mistake, as per the good Dr's tweet here.

People are talking demons here - malignant narcissists have been called the 'quintessence of evil', so it seems to fit given all the manipulation and so forth that's been happening that also seems to fit that pathology.

The Ninth Mouse

It's almost understandable though, if A) you think, in the dark recesses of your soul, that it might be fatal (not just a bad idea, or a few injuries), AND B) All your friends and family got it.

There are a lot of people who wouldn't want to survive the loss of their kids, or their entire social circle. And where there's a social-class-signaling element to it, yes there are a lot of people who also wouldn't want to survive the loss of everybody who recognizes their current social status. It's the same people who'd commit suicide over losing a career, even though they could still make a more modest living doing something else. They worked hard to climb that ladder, and the thought of going back down a few rungs does not compute.

So yeah, there's a death-pact element to it. "I did what everybody else did, so if it turns out to be a bad decision, at least we'll all go together".

I think for a lot of these folks, the idea that they might survive their friends and coworkers... and then be forced to mingle with the Great Unwashed who didn't take the shots? Fate worse than death, right there.

I have said it before here, but when my sister was explaining to me that her two young sons got the shots, she pointed out to my shock that if the shots are deadly, then their whole family dies together. And I hug them a little tighter every time I see them, only seven and nine years old...

My husband is double-shot, not boosted, and this is all just tearing me up.

shewhoholdstensions

I know people who have made the argument too, and it's actually not a bad argument, if death is guaranteed and happens quickly. If it's dragged out, or only affects a portion of the vaccinated, then that argument falls apart very quickly.

May the tensions you hold occasionally be relieved by slack!

Blessings!

At last, a place where we can all be in agreement!!! I doubt there are many of us in the Great Unwashed too terribly keen on having these folks start mingling with us either! That does kinda sounds like it might turn out being a fate worse than death.

Since we don't (and won't) recognize (nor appreciate) their current social status — as in ever — maybe their egos will actually be best served by clinging to each other with cult-like fervor. Whether they cling together by their living or by their dying is a nuance they will have to work out for themselves. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't pay us any heed anyway were we, in all our dreadful unwashedness, to attempt to help them.

— Christophe

I hold out hope for redemption.

If Mary of Egypt can go into the desert and become one of the greatest and most beloved saints of the church... there's hope for us all.

Physically or metaphorically?

My heart is and was in the right place. It's not missing. It hasn't been dislodged. It is pure as the snows of innocence.
and though it may be injured from the poison I fed it I did the right thing because my heart is pure. It is in the right place.

Under the sternum. A little bit to the left. ;)

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