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open_space ([personal profile] open_space) wrote in [personal profile] ecosophia 2023-01-05 07:07 pm (UTC)

Re: So this is what not living under a rock feels like

Thank you Scotlyn!

That's an excellent point, it does seem to have the answer within itself, it's just that we seem to place more weight in some perceptions more than others then. Machine confirmed perceptions are more important than the perceptions of their creators now, and now we attack the human perception.
It's about putting more trust on the abstraction, the mechanized extension of the senses, than on the real ones, which is like walking to the edge of a long board and then removing the support on the base.

I think we've taken this too far and have mistaken the tools, having projected into them a certain fascination towards the animation we've given them.

If you look for the message it's odd because it seems like a way of attacking the human condition directly. "This is what I feel, this is what the machine says. See? I'm worthless because they don't say the same thing and we must be wrong on every other human perception then, let's ditch the whole thing and upload consciousness to robots."

Of course this started because human perception is extremely personal and we do have biases and limited processing power but it is a though we've taken only that about being human and projected an "uber human" image into machines because they do those things better. It's like a vicious circle, the more our inner senses and intuitions are drowned in the noise, the less we think of being human and the more we worship these robots that have these subset capacities exalted, the same we do with gods but instead of them raising us, is about us diminishing ourselves so that machines seem godlike.

Perhaps we should think of the extension of the human senses which are exclusively material, machines, as a way to understand just that, the material world exclusively and nothing else, considering the other areas inappropriate for measurements and only complementing human perception.

That's why I focused the exercises I shared a couple weeks ago towards regaining some of the awareness of body, mind and how it transacts with the world. It starts teaching you the skills to regain this perceptions, in this case in particular towards health.

As to why it happened? I think we are still figuring that out, with the "disenchantment" idea of Weber; or the malign spell that we've put to ourselves with greed, but don't really now the "higher why" besides that becoming super greedy as a species by destroying the very place that supports us is a terribly bad idea because it leads to these things reflected in us, hamstringing ourselves in so many ways.

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