ecosophia | Magic Monday

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jprussell said:

The things that the sign of the cross seems to have going for it in a Christian context are: recapitulates core symbolism of the faith, calls on the balanced aspects of deity, and touches/crosses the third eye, belly, and heart centers.

Edred Thorsson suggests a "sign of the hammer" for heathens in The Nine Doors of Midgard which is pretty much the same thing as the sign of the cross, but with an obviously different emphasis (touch forehead, solar plexus, left shoulder, right shoulder, crossing the heart in-between, at each spot call on a different deity or heiti of Odin). Divination suggests that this sign would be fine, but there might be something better out there to find/come up with, especially if I can find something that uses tree symbolism.

Might the opening to the Sphere of Protection qualify as something of the kind, or is it only appropriate for more ceremonial purposes?

Hmm...the Nine Doors of Midgard is the Maha Chundi tantric-chakra seal if I recall correctly as recommended by Master Nan. Really got to find that essay/illustration again but yes, the sequence of the 9 point hammer is to physically touch those spots because important nodes of prana are at at those places.

As I recall from the Master Nan's essay it also mattered which sequence of touching the points was done. Or at least it had to be in a certain sequence for the Chundi Tantra. I admit I don't know if that is universally true for any ritual you would wish to use it with. I think it's generally true in all or most cases but I don't know for sure. I am careful to explain to everyone the limits of my own knowledge on this. If I extrapolate I want everyone to know clearly when I am. All I know is that you are directing the prana of your own body and mind when you start touching these points on your body with conscious intent. I suspect the sequence has to do with how and what kind of prana is flowing through one's body and mind at those points.

This is one reason why I find hatha yoga so amazing because you can eventually train yourself via minute alignment of the postures to direct the flow of how much and what type of prana to achieve specific results you want. YOU are the ritual, temple or talisman. Sadhguru says at higher levels a Raja Hatha Yogi becomes...quite literally...a walking temple that radiates higher spiritual plane power to everyone and everything around him/her.

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Addition:

Well F! Looks like Bill Bodri took down the essay that had Master Nan's illustrations. The best I can do is provide Bill Bodri's instructions on it here:

https://www.meditationexpert.com/meditation-techniques/m_Vairocana_Zhunti_Tantra.html

Zhunti is the Chinese rendition of Sanskrit's Chundi.

I don't recommend this ritual DIY because it directly involves working with the various types of prana at the heart chakra and Sadhguru says the vast billions of the world are at a place where they'd mess themselves up pretty bad doing pranic practices focused there.

There's a reason working on the heart chakra is typically only for high level adepts under the direct supervision of a guru. Anahata means the 'unstruck sound'. That is..you will literally start hearing things when even advanced scientific instruments won't detect atomic vibrations going on to back up your claim about hearing various sounds.

Sadhguru, "What's one of the signs most people point to about someone who's starting to go crazy? The crazy person start hearing things no one else hears. They aren't kidding. They really do hear things no one else can. Because that's one of the first signs of what's happening when you start to activate Anahata in an unbalanced way."

No joke. If you are hearing things other people are not it's not a sign you are specially special and gifted. It's a sign you are becoming elementally/pranically unbalanced and a major fall / degradation in one's mind, body or both is not far off.

Sadhguru says he almost never ever, ever, ever puts anyone on a anahata chakra centered tantra or yoga. Almost nobody of today's 8 billion (yes, he did say billions) are prepared for such an advanced practice even under the direct supervision of a Siddha guru. They surely are not ready for it as a DIY practice like JMG provides. Stick with JMG's practices.

So though I provide the above link it's for education purposes only. If you decide to do Zhunti DIY anyway without a guru's oversight and willingness to step in if you start to degrade - well...you've been warned. An insane asylum or mental institution may be in your future. And if you're in the U.S. - ruinous medical bills to boot for your desperate family - or homelessness if you aren't covered.

In fact...I think that may be one of the reasons Bodri decided to take Master Nan's detailed instructions down.

Edited 2022-12-12 22:11 (UTC)

Thanks very much for these, I will take a look at the linked instructions, but I will certainly not try to teach myself something with such clear, screaming warning bells that it requires competent instruction. Getting some further thoughts on the energetic side of such gestures, though, ought to be illuminating.

Good wishes to your research.

Oh! It just hit me a moment ago!

I think the novel, I Never Promised You a Rose Garden is likely a fantastic account of what it's like to be someone with a highly unbalanced-but-active Anahata chakra. My understanding is that it's a thinly-fictionalized account of the patient's own experiences suffering from schizoidal hallucinations.

Edited 2022-12-12 23:04 (UTC)

I wonder if the relationship to the anahata chakra has something to do with the sacrificial and megalomaniac deliriums some schizoids exhibit with Jesus for example.

Yes, Joanne Greenberg (“Deborah Blau”) and her psychiatrist, Frieda Fromm-Reichmann (“Dr. Fried”) were going to just release Joanne ‘s medical records, with commentary by both, but Frieda died before they could, so Joanne wrote it up as a novel.

The two things that really stand out in “...Rose Garden” are 1) the curative factors were plenty of money, from Joanne’s parents, and plenty of love, from her family and Frieda, and 2) the objective existence of Anterrabae and friends. At the end they have a lively discussion with Joanne as to whether they should stay on with her or leave. These were Petunia People, although no one in the WW II era would admit it.

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