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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2022-12-06 01:58 pm

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 70

me neitherAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.   

(Anonymous) 2022-12-10 12:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Boredom? Just a kaput in the imagination department.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-10 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Depends on the context, I think.

During the 2020 lockdowns, I was lucky to be able to avoid boredom. In addition to reading and music and gardening what have you, there was also one open park I could still walk in, and I had a few friends who were still willing to get together, as was most of my extended family.

But....

I know it would have been so much worse - so much more boring and lonely - if one, a single local municipality hadn't kept its parks open so that I had ONE place to walk in nature when every single other state, county, and local park was closed, if I hadn't had a place to garden when the community garden was padlocked, if I hadn't had some friends who thought it was all BS and who were willing to get together to hang out at home or take walks with me, and if I hadn't had family still willing to congregate in our homes. If I hadn't had those resources, I think I really would have gone stir-crazy.

Other people didn't have those resources. Some people in harder lockdown areas couldn't escape to even one small park for a walk under the trees and around a pond, didn't have a place to garden if the community garden was padlocked, and weren't lucky enough to have social/family circles with critical thinking skills. None of these resources are financial ones, mind you - I'm talking about the most basic outdoor space and social resources that I used to take for granted.

I can understand how people wound up board and lonely - for people who obeyed them, or who knew only other obedient people, the lockdowns took away many of the most basic connections and activities.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-10 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
It was brutal. It was really brutal. And for some people it was much, much, much harder than it was for other people, you'll get no argument from me about that.

My heart breaks for so many people and what they went through.

That said, imagination is necessary for defense of sanity, no matter what. Many POWs have much to teach in this regard.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-10 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
No house, no job, no/few resources, no company, no buying or selling. . .

And you aren't getting bored?

Congratulations. You're a more imaginative fellow than I am.

The Ninth Mouse


(Anonymous) 2022-12-10 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
If one doesn't want to comply with the bio-digital thing that's coming, then it seems to me that one would need to find another meaningful way to live outside of society without capital or ownership of means of production, or probably become bored and try to fill the void with drugs etc.

Perhaps one could irritate other people? Point out their hypocrisy and failings etc. as a way to derive meaning and purpose?

Make a game of one's deprivation? Give up a material possession each day, get along without it, then try to beat one's latest personal record for simplicity/austerity by giving up something else?

Those sorts of activities seem to have worked for Diogenes.

A modern revival of cynicism?

The philosophy of cynicism (it's not just negative) seems ready made for this:

"For the Cynics, the purpose of life is to live in virtue, in agreement with nature. As reasoning creatures, people can gain happiness by rigorous training and by living in a way which is natural for themselves, rejecting all conventional desires for wealth, power, and fame, and even flouting conventions openly and derisively in public. Instead, they were to lead a simple life free from all possessions."

Living in a way that is natural for oneself. . . Rejecting ALL possessions. . . Rejecting ALL conventional desires. . . I can imagine that would be 'challenging', but at least it sounds like it could be authentic, and not totally self-destructive.

Is it ideal? Well, not if one likes having any 'stuff' and the comfort and security that it provides, but the approach seems preferable to huffing aerosols etc. And one will have to either play along, accept however many needles etc, or renounce it all anyway.

One last thought, the powers that be within the system are happy to let refuseniks do nothing at all, or waste away on drugs etc, but they will be less tolerant of challenges to their authority. Just last night on TV I saw a clip of a couple of cops spearing an old man face first into the pavement for wearing a cheeky sandwich board sign in public.

One would need to harden oneself right up. Not the most attractive thought either, but if that's what it takes. . .

The Ninth Mouse

(Anonymous) 2022-12-11 02:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Where did that happen, do you know? And what on earth did the sign say?

-Translucent Jejune Octopus