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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2022-12-06 01:58 pm

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 70

me neitherAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.   

Re: Internet's Effect on Covid Response

(Anonymous) 2022-12-07 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, you are right. I thought about this as I wrote the above. Perhaps it is better that everyone locked down than they went to war, as they did in the first and second world wars. I wonder if that’s true or not. I do know that I have some in my family, who went to the first and second world wars, and others who fled or made themselves scarce.

And being a Canadian of draftable age in Toronto I saw and met many young Americans of draftable age who had fled the USA..
It appears better to be locked in a house than to flee.
But it is a lot like jail. I have been in jail for 2 whole weeks for the crime of being a passenger in a car I was not driving, in the state of Florida, with no I.D. The driver was black, They targeted the car for that reason, and when they could not get him, they targeted me. Jail is not fun, but being in lockdown for several months, over and over, in the country where I live, lasted much longer and was perhaps worse. It certainly had a worse and longer lasting effect on my mental state.
Hysteria was whipped up for the first and second wars and the Vietnam war, and all the other wars since, but the past wars although much more intense were localized and different in scale, in that the actual physical war battles were not actually occurring in every country. And it takes a while to set up a war and get the troops placed, as I recall being most obvious in the first Iraq war.

The lockdowns around the world occurred everywhere within a few weeks. I don’t think that would have happened so fast without the internet. There was no place to go to escape. I know because I had my passport out and was looking for just such a place. Anywhere that was not locked down when I first began to look was locked down soon afterwards. My son was forced to leave Thailand, all foreigners were ordered to leave Thailand. There was no uninvolved place to go.

While Canada and the USA have always been involved in the World Wars, they have not had these world wars occurring in their countries.
Lockdowns were almost instantaneously enacted everywhere, except maybe Africa. And the fear mongers kept predicting Africa was going to be the hardest hit.

My conclusion: Covid lockdown appears better than war. But what I wonder, Is it better in the long run? There was that mass obedience, the almost forced injections, is not all this perhaps the beginnings and entrenchment of some bad precedents, with more similar to come as bad or worse? To be possibly added to wars that have not been eliminated either.

I remember the ridiculousness of watching the Royal Navy sail to the Falklands.

Re: Internet's Effect on Covid Response

(Anonymous) 2022-12-08 11:32 am (UTC)(link)
I really hesitate to say "this time its different" because that's been used for decades now to justify why some ideal of progress is gonna work this time after its failed so badly in the past, BUT

we've never had such an energy dependent society with so much money printing and so much communication. It struck the other day how creepy it was that the world was so in sync with the lockdowns and masks. And that the people who initiated them would want to exercise that power again. They are egoists so why wouldn't they?

But I thought about it some more and the one thing about our elite our rulers our upper crust these days is that they are almost universally adult children. Their boomer upbringing has they constantly whining and feeling like deserve more. These people had the chance to enact their full digital helltopia and they didn't pull it off. They also could have mandated vaccines for everyone in the US and they didn't. It wasn't the constitution stopping them or the courts either. It's like they can't focus long enough for world domination. I'm not ruling out magical intervention either. But basically these people who people hold up as evil overlords can't keep it up. They are impotent when they need to perform for the long term.

Huh that word impotence has a lot of power. Gonna use that more often.