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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2022-12-06 01:58 pm

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 70

me neitherAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.   

Re: Gaslighting

(Anonymous) 2022-12-12 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
They are probably familiar with how pharmaceutical companies market a 'product' via language dictated by public relations dept., lawyers and the legal team, advertising and the director of advertising, etc....

Re: Gaslighting

(Anonymous) 2022-12-12 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
But now I try to apply 'auto-correct' -

Remember the truckers.
Remember the legal teams in place.
Remember organizations fighting for freedom.

All is not lost.
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Re: Covidian Herbalists

[personal profile] frittermywig 2022-12-12 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for this, Scotlyn. I think I built my hopes and expectations a bit high. If I think of their mask policy as directed towards their still-fearful clientele, perhaps I can remain open minded enough to find some good there.
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Re: Covidian Herbalists

[personal profile] frittermywig 2022-12-12 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
All good advice, thank you! Having moved to a new community, I'm missing that crucial first step, the recommendations of people I already trust. I'll make connections and get it sorted soon, I'm sure.
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Re: Husband of Biden's covid advisory team dies suddenly in Qatar

[personal profile] p_coyle 2022-12-12 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
in addition to the 16 (16!) ex-fbi and/or cia types on the twitter staff, there was also podesta's niece.

funny, that.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-12 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
That might be true for some people in some places. But my own experience was of suddenly finding myself associating with groups of people I had never previously associated with. Which was ultimately a good thing, though an eye-opener at the time. I don't think I was alone in having this experience.
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Re: Elon Musk's Epic Battle

[personal profile] p_coyle 2022-12-12 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
not much will surprise me at this stage of the game. i'm not very optimistic, but i remain hopeful, if that makes any sense.
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Re: Brianne Dresson: Ghost

[personal profile] p_coyle 2022-12-12 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
earlier on this post there was some discussion about how to find healthcare outside the system. perhaps volunteering, either by putting in face time or writing a check, to a local group supporting the crapcine injured might just get you a foot into that door.

Re: Gaslighting

(Anonymous) 2022-12-12 10:47 am (UTC)(link)
Message to Freedom Convoy Truckers From Dr. Patrick Phillips, MD
Bright Light News
Published February 21, 2022
https://rumble.com/vvgal4-message-to-freedom-convoy-truckers-from-dr.-patrick-phillips-md.html


[TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: This video is an assemblage of clips as a promotional video for the full interview.]

TRANSCRIPT

DR. PATRICK PHILIPS, MD: My deepest gratitude to all the truckers and all the participants in the Freedom Convoy 2022. This moment really is incredible.

[cut]

Over the last two years we've been in a very dark place in Canada and honestly it was getting darker. The censorship of doctors from denying patients early treatments for covid, and so many deaths and harms that I've seen from these public health measures that were forced upon on people against their will. Whether it's the elderly who are locked up in hospitals and longterm care who died from loneliness and neglect, to so many people who were forced into getting these vaccines.

[cut]

Let alone all the people who were deceived and not given that informed consent about the risks.

[cut]

But this moment really is incredible. I've never seen in our country so united. Just in my small town of 1,500 I've never seen so many people gathered along the highway so proudly waving Canadian flags and just so proud and happy to see these truckers pass through our town. And it was huge. It was a huge convoy.

[cut]

People are starting to see through the propaganda. In my small town here which again is over 80% vaxxed in my area and over 93% of the respondents to the poll supported the truckers.

[cut]

They're going to convince you you're a fringe minority, but you're not. And the reason I say that is because so many people were forced into the vaccine. We are the majority of people who want choice, who want autonomy, who want to be able to make their own decisions about their own body, and that's what you guys are standing for. You guys are shining a light and that's why they're scared. Don't be afraid when they smear you, don' be afraid when they attack. Because we are winning. And keep it up. Thank you so much for all you're doing. Your light is shining through and we're going to win this.
2:08
[END]

# # #

TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE:

Taking Back Our Freedom, Advisory Board:
Bio for Dr. Patrick Phillips:
"Patrick Phillips is an emergency and family physician in Englehart, Ontario. Throughout the course of the Covid-19 pandemic and the lockdowns he started to see some major harms that his patients were suffering from, that were not being picked up by public health officials. From missed cancer screenings resulting in terminal cancer diagnoses, to a surge in suicidal children, he knew he could not remain silent. Despite guidance and edicts from the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario ordering doctors to remain silent on the harms of lockdowns and vaccine adverse events, Dr. Phillips continued to openly discuss the harms of lockdowns and vaccines, and the treatments that were proving useful in the medical evidence. The College has since restricted his license and sent allegations to their tribunal for him to be disciplined, possibly resulting in a suspension or revocation of his medical license. Nevertheless, he continues to speak freely on medical evidence, and the importance of free and informed consent. He is also a member of the Canadian Covid Care Alliance."
Source:
https://tbof.ca/about-us/
https://tbof.ca/about-us/patrick-phillips/

Re: Gaslighting

(Anonymous) 2022-12-12 10:52 am (UTC)(link)
There was Swiss doctor who spoke out and was given the psychiatric treatment. It's a thing. And the Swiss have been relatively sane compared to their neighbors.

https://www.thomasbinder.ch/blog-1
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Re: Finally succumbed

[personal profile] scotlyn 2022-12-12 10:53 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you!

Re: Gaslighting

(Anonymous) 2022-12-12 11:23 am (UTC)(link)
It's a test to see what the response is and how far they can push you. I could see the Canadian government removing healthcare from the unvaccinated because if you protest/complain they'll just close your bank account. Canada has become one the testing grounds to see how far the blessings of democracy can go. And they'll be telling you democracy = freedom the whole time they put the screws to you.

Re: Elon Musk's Epic Battle

(Anonymous) 2022-12-12 11:36 am (UTC)(link)
What Elon is doing is 1) bringing the fight to the enemy class. The first move on that was removing their blue check mark status. The follow-up moves were removing the shadow-banning and limits to the conversation on Twitter, and exposing the fraud; and 2) attempting to make Twitter a machine of Truth. Curtis Yarvin wrote some essays on how it could be possible. We've lost any basis of truth in America. It was the Protestant Bible, then Science. Both those are gone. Twitter can't become a Truth engine until it completely comes clean with what happened since 2016.

He looks like he is having a blast whatever he is doing and the fact that a lot of very evil people are shrieking right now is making my Christmas merry.

The big question is why aren't the other social platforms coming clean about their moderation policies and amount of embedded three letter agency employees?

I'm pissed as an American, but what are other countries thinking right now? The USG has complete control over social media and is pushing their beliefs as if they are Truth on the entire world. Truth which has done nothing but destroy lives. So much suffering so DC can keep its power. Sick.
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Re: Covidian Herbalists

[personal profile] scotlyn 2022-12-12 11:40 am (UTC)(link)
Well, any practice worth its salt should *also* be able to accommodate *your* comfort, too... ;)

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Re: Elon Musk's Epic Battle

[personal profile] ari_ormstunga 2022-12-12 11:48 am (UTC)(link)
It's been entertaining to watch. I'm not sure what Musk's endgame is either. The way he's releasing the info has a sort of sideshow vibe to it, like that Died Suddenly film (disclosure, I didn't watch it, I'm just going by reviews and commentary).

Formal politics is only one path to power I suppose, and watching a rich and influential President like Trump get steamrolled by the establishment makes me wonder if someone outside the official power structure may be better able to challenge it.

Re: Elon Musk's Epic Battle

[personal profile] boccaccio 2022-12-12 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder if the time is right for a succesful attempt but I will laud Elon for trying. A few things are standing in the way in my estimation.

The biggest obstacle seems that most people are completely unaware of any problem. This will make it easy for the media to just ignore whatever Musk says.

The second biggest obstacle is that the injectees do not want to know that anything is wrong. Their safety is in the herd so they will start to know only when the herd start to perish in significant numbers or the ringmasters decide they need to know. I'm afraid it will then immediately flip into blind panic and rage (some of it directed at the unvaxxed).

Perhaps there will be a new 'current thing' to keep the masses distracted. Several psychics have predicted something serious happening this December and even if they are wrong about that, they might have picked up that something is about to capture mankinds attention. It might be the vax of course, but it seems more likely something else. As usual, we'll have to wait and see.

Re: Brianne Dresson: Ghost

[personal profile] boccaccio 2022-12-12 11:54 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, what she describes is outright fraud. She's in contact with Robert Kennedy jr. Where is the lawsuit I wonder?
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Re: Traditional medicine

[personal profile] scotlyn 2022-12-12 12:02 pm (UTC)(link)
While this is a very honest appraisal of your own "weighing up" of available options, it also beautifully lays out exactly what the use of money gives us, and also, removes from us.

Money allows us to remain strangers with those we trade with and with those we donate to, and there is a certain ease and convenience in that.

Money removes our power to rely directly on people and on the competence of people for our needs, as well as to BE relied on directly for our competence in meeting other people's needs, which powers involve the building of relationships of trust - a kind of work that for many of us is unaccustomed, and unfamiliar, and difficult.

Re: Gaslighting

(Anonymous) 2022-12-12 12:24 pm (UTC)(link)
There is an informative interview here which is relevant to this thread:

https://expose-news.com/2022/12/12/the-weaponisation-of-psychiatry/

A summary follows for those who don't do video.



Re: Elon Musk's Epic Battle

(Anonymous) 2022-12-12 12:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't trustr very much in Musk, but I must recognize that he has balls and ambition...

-A Spaniard.

Re: Elon Musk's Epic Battle

(Anonymous) 2022-12-12 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't trust very much in Musk, but I must recognize that he has balls and ambition...

-A Spaniard.

Died Suddenly

(Anonymous) 2022-12-12 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11528377/Second-journalist-Khalid-al-Misslam-dies-suddenly-Qatar-World-Cup.html

Two journalists have "died suddenly" at the World Cup. Clearly rare but certainly more often than in the past.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-12 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Here's hoping that you are lucky and your spouse not unlucky, and have many more happy years together.

Everyone should always realize that they might not die first. I've known or known of too many people who died, or whose spouses died, surprisingly young. Causes ranged from cancer diagnosed just a few weeks before death - what would now be called Turbo Cancer had they been vaxxed - to slipping on an icy sidewalk. We should all make financial and emotional preparations for our loved ones on the assumption that we might die, and for ourselves on the assumption that they might.

-Translucent Jejune Octopus

Today from the mainstream media...

(Anonymous) 2022-12-12 02:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Along with a piece pushing mRNA vaccines for every disease and insisting that China must submit to the Superior Western mRNA Vaccines, there was this:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/daycares-in-finland-built-a-forest-and-it-changed-kids-immune-systems/ar-AA15anli

A report of a Finnish study - no surprise that it wasn't American - that if you create outdoor habitats with dirt and trees and let the small kids play outside in them five days a week, within four weeks their immune systems will function better. And nobody winds up in a wheelchair. Take your kids to the park!!

-Translucent Jejune Octopus
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Re: Gaslighting

[personal profile] bofur_the_dwarf 2022-12-12 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish that folks would stop posting this. I'm no fan of the CPSO's antics but this one has been massively misinterpreted. Whoever wrote it is just a True Believer who really thinks that "anxiety" is a cause of "vaccine hesitancy". It's not a nefarious plot to institutionalize anyone.

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