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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2022-11-15 01:05 pm

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 67

elephant in the roomAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.  

Re: Long term sickness

[personal profile] stubborn_ass 2022-11-19 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Igorchudov had a great substack in which the discussion revolved around how to dissuade people from the jabs. I'm sure as we tried to get through to family and friends, we've tried pretty much all forms of persuasion, from multiple angles, trying to refine and improve the process. And yes, the success rate seemed dismal. But we persevered anyways... I know I did. I know most of the folks in my freedom group did. The rare occasional success was extremely heartening.

The more typical response though? I spent hours at a friend's mechanic shop, brought my laptop with all the saved links and articles from officially-approved sources, and started to link up all the data together, painting that rather grim picture. Friend was nodding along, providing his own anecdotes to back up what the data was already showing less than a year since the jab introduction... so you'd think I'd succeeded, right? Nope, the second the govt sends him a text message to take his booster (months early), he went. So the negative way of looking is to focus on the hours and hours spent with him as totally wasted, be discouraged and start detaching from everyone. But in the bigger picture, it was a test of our own humanity in how we value friendships, what we are prepared to put forth despite apparent futility and giving it more than the old college try. Sure, past a certain point, you stop knocking your head against the concrete wall... there's gotta be a sense of self-preservation too.

Then we come to that 'oppressive' presence which seemed to be driving the whole thing from the start.. that began lifting in March. Official research showing negative effects from the jabs were no longer 100% censored from the medical journals. That was a serious break in the dam. Every passing month saw more of the coordinated global efforts started to fall apart. We've previously noted that the senile elites everywhere were quite incompetent, yet they could follow the script handed to them and just execute and coordinate all the social controls and full-spectrum media control to an extent that calling it blatant is an understatement. Without the 'force', they started to flounder, and then doubled down on increasingly ineffectual policies which cost them even more credibility and generated more questioning even among previously docile populace.

In that context, I see the latest G20 push for waxxine passport... and digital currencies, as a last ditch doubling down effort - yet again, even as the energy crunch is starting to dismantle their industrial and tech base, food prices starting to spiral out of control even in nominally food-surplus countries... That's why I'm a lot more sanguine about where things are headed... yes, the elites want their dystopian reset now, but look how quickly their latest false flag op - "Russian missile hitting Poland" collapsed within 12 hours and they had to start walking back all their MSM headlines etc. Too many signs of desperate flailing going on right now.....

While the US congress exempted themselves from the vex mandates... I'm pretty sure the other west-aligned elites around the world were really stupid enough to have engaged in the needlework. Maybe 30-40% of the initial batches contained just crap which the body can shrug off after a short time, but anyone taking any of the boosters now is quite certain to be getting the full dose of lipid nanoparticles and spike cocktail. In other words, while I am not celebrating death per se, the current elites are effectively taking themselves out of the 'game', allowing us a chance to reshape the future, perhaps even without having to engage in revolution which was required in the past to overturn an exisiting power structure. Hence my other focus is to keep talking about parallel societies to whomever when the chance arises... encouraging folks to network in more meaningful ways... just gotta be ready if and when the opportunity arises. Pre-covid, our host's catabolic collapse model made a lot of sense. Post-jab? I think we're getting a much bigger drop in 1 go, with a lot more disruption, but the added bonus of the previously entrench elites taking themselves out of the game earlier, thus affording us the chance that we can pull more meaningful stuff back. Yes, I'm actually a lot more optimistic right now... based on the framework of my understanding of why the elites are doing what they're doing.