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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2022-11-15 01:05 pm

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 67

elephant in the roomAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.  

Re: Long term sickness

(Anonymous) 2022-11-15 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Also see Rintrah:

https://www.rintrah.nl/wheres-the-vaccine-enhanced-covid-apocalypse-you-promised-me/

Here it is. The hospitals can’t cope. Everyone has some T-cell immunity so we no longer get people on ventilators with ARDS, but the apocalypse is unfolding around you. The problems are similar in the Netherlands, the government is scrapping standards for when you can expect an ambulance to arrive. Thousands of COVID patients here are sent home with oxygen bags, so they don’t show up in the statistics.

Re: Long term sickness

[personal profile] escorcher 2022-11-16 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
You have to be careful with this interpretation of 'not coping hospitals', at least in the UK. A lot of what's happening here is a combination of a large elderly population, a long term diminishing number of beds and a social care system that can't cope. Essentially a lot of beds are getting blocked with people that could leave hospital if an appropriate care plan in the community could be put together/place in a care home found. This situation had been forming a while before CoVid ever hit.

Re: Long term sickness

[personal profile] dendroica 2022-11-16 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Here in Oregon, at least, covid is a very small part of the crisis that the health care system is facing. We also have hospitals "warehousing" patients who need to be discharged to rehab or nursing homes but there are no openings. And we have the general labor shortage (economy + boomers retiring + overwork + vax injury) limiting the supply of care while demand (high seasonal illness + new chronic illness) is quite high.

Re: Long term sickness

(Anonymous) 2022-11-18 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
It's the same in Canada, so I suspect this is a widespread issue. It was an issue before covid, covid messed up the medical system and reduced its capacity to cope with pre-existing problems.

Re: Long term sickness

[personal profile] boccaccio 2022-11-16 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Rintrah has a better grasp of the biomedical aspects than I do, but when it comes to data I sometimes get the impression he jumps to conclusions. I don't know where his claim is based upon that thousands of C19 patients in the Netherlands are sent home with oxygen bags or that excess mortality in Singapore is in people who were infected in the 3 months before. But it is interesting that he thinks it is a dysfunction in the immune system that is causing the excess mortality.

Re: Long term sickness

(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
He does offer some unique perspective and I like to read him but he's often way out there.

We should be all dying from monkeypox right now, according to him