Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 64

[ecosophia]

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.   

Comments

Re: Pandora's box

[(Anonymous)]

I'd heard about the adjuvant thing elsewhere and yeah...if you give the adjuvant to the "placebo" arm you obviously won't catch adverse reactions to the adjuvant. That's just an obviously bad trial, and not only that...why would you do that unless you had an inkling the adjuvant might cause adverse reactions? Why not just use saline as is standard in plaebo-controlled studies?

It's like when Pfizer gave up the Indian market rather than agree to an India-run clinical trial of their covid vaccine. Why would you give up such a huge market unless you had very strong concerns about what the new trial might show?

Yeah sorry, got off your topic there. Hmm can you expand on this part?

>This past year has been a very sobering experience. I would like to say the colleagues, physicians, etc I know have also caught on, but not far beyond prices....

>When trying to hint at these deceits and complicity, there is a type of quiet nodding along but stray to far and a harsh backlash will be imminent.

Good luck extricating yourself.

-Ochre Shabby Sea Serpent

Re: Pandora's box

[(Anonymous)]

I went to look at the pivotal trial for a vaccine it just says against placebo. So there is a pretty intentional obfuscation happening as anyone reading that would likely assume saline.

Extrication needs to be slow, thoughtful, and through deliberate action. Instant gratification is so heavily reinforced so I need to remind myself to be patient and do what I can now to be ready for when an opportunity sought or unsought appears.