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Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 64

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: another example of tech company over-reach
(Anonymous) 2022-10-27 06:54 am (UTC)(link)I love the idea of crafts going back to the real. I'm sick of everything having to revolve around the internet, and around the algorithmic apparatchiks who are constantly manipulating it to their advantage not mine.
I'd like to see a real and tangible publishing distribution network arise, similar to that of the alternative press back when there was a counterculture worthy the name. It's time to get those ideas out there that are anathema to the Narrative - like the truth about what's happened these last three years, for example.
Kevin
Re: another example of tech company over-reach
(Anonymous) 2022-10-27 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)i think there could be a huuuuge philosophy and art renaissance with all the thinkers here and elsewhere, and the need for home schooling supplies and books. i see something "underground" that is not really secret, but in The Real, and more akin to the lecture circuit in the 19th century.
others will have better and more immediate ideas, but i wanna do fancy high end so people come to ME and wanna collaborate with ME ("Pretty One" action) and even when i took over for my agent and lawyer and negotiated my own contracts with publishers, i often traded cash for IN KIND stuff like pallets of books for touring or whatever.
and in time i'll want big open commercial space for music and readings or interviews and that home made beer and spirits and shoes clothes stuff WHATEVER. my first goal isn't just to make scratch for James and me here at home, but to try and get out there IN PERSON since we've got Temporary Reality and now JDeCandia is close by and there are others who're secret.
we need to squat on a spot so we may be FOUND and talk and meet and see how things go.
but about the funky underground publishing (remember loompanics? i think that's the one James loved. i love V Vale's "REsearch" series) i don't really see it only for the kids, as us older folks will be sitting in and buying the books and the lecture tickets and watching the docs and listening to the programs.
i see us returning to the '70s when our parents used to go over to each others' houses for dinner and past a certain time once they were drinking and talking by the fireplaces or whatever, we were supposed to shut up and go off and play by ourselves (that's when i found out the host's porn/i've always had a 6th sense for finding porn and sex toys in Real Life).
we'd tap on their shoulders and be told, "quiet and listen or go away! this is ADULT TIME."
i listened once i was done with the porn. (hey "Joy of Sex" was THE coffee table book then. anyone remember SHOW ME? good lord Matt Walsh would have a cow (and not abort it).
ANYHOW... as usual i digress: I WANT TO GO BACK TO "BE QUIET. THIS IS ADULT TIME." in fact, i want that trash "build back better" or "make america great again" for BE QUIET/THIS IS ADULT TIME.
they used to put kids having tantrums alone in rooms until they were tired. bring THAT back.
ANYHOW:
Eric Hoffer is in an old interview somewhere on YT and he mentions a group of strange guys breaking down somewhere and how they didn't need a heirarchy; they all just KNEW how to break off and do what needed to be done.
THAT'S HAPPENING HERE!
there are those who're "Remembering" and those who're doing the legal battles and those who're hosting and guiding and some yelling and some planning and tinkering with culture and why we'll make or write what we will. what is NEEDED. we're all already breaking apart but working towards a future together. not in a communisty way.
it's actually quite miraculous, as disconnected and different as we are, that we're STILL able to pull this off.
and Kevin, if you haven't heard from etsy, maybe you're not part of the apparent "testing" that this is said to be about. but be on notice.
and i'm heartened because tech is making it so much easier than i figured it'd all be to do something off-line and in The Real.
see, i knew it was time to repopulate The Real already back in 2011 when i was on my final tour, but it wasn't Over yet. and that's when i was cancelled and have spent the past 11 years working on my skills and vision for a new business idea.
i also died as i was because we'd started a publishing company, shipped books from china, and i was burnt out dealing with other talent and doing shows and traveling. and the world was different while i was doing all that stuff. everyone was a movie star now.
11 years of me learning a new skill, when i've always been great with my nimble hands, and that's how i knew America was gonna hit the wall with all these white collar jobs. what're they gonna DO???
i also quit book biz because it's a vanity endeavor. you end up paying to be published and tour now (and for some time now). someone dared to say Papa G was "lucky" that he chose to be a writer. "luck"! the man writes ALL THE TIME and he's glad he's padded his account finally but he works for every below minimum wage penny trust THAT.
while i haven't changed my goal for what i'm doing, since 2011 when i quit writing and it quit me, i've changed how BIG this could be.
i thought i'd be alone selling to rich folks and i couldn't get squishy over THAT, ya know?
but THIS all is better.
i will work on some smaller things to try and sell for CASH locally in the hopes that we can get that idea STARTED, but we may have to do two-track approaches and get ready to jump off one credit track LATER.
but handshakes... 8-1/2x 11" flyers with tabs... cash...
YES YES YES...
keep the ideas coming. we've forgotten all that we took for granted. but these are those "tells" that court who we want in plain sight.
and James' boss is jumping off square for card payments, too. they're all lousy.
cash.
or beans if need be.
x
erika
Re: another example of tech company over-reach
(Anonymous) 2022-10-27 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)AND..
...
Some underground, zine, artist, secret handshake inspiration.
https://www.pbs.org/video/love-rockets-wbnh1h/
I saw this last week and it was fantastic! Worth your time :D
Murmuration
Re: another example of tech company over-reach
(Anonymous) 2022-10-28 03:35 am (UTC)(link)Whatever the distribution network may be, it's got to have a lot more resilience than the old hippie head shop web of yore. As Christopher Hitchens once pointed out, the FBI crushed that network handily, putting the Berkeley Barb and their ilk outta biz. It's got to have some kind of robust meta-resilience, a potent built-in resistance to interference from The Man. How that might work I don't know. Some kind of secret society with a publishing wing? Co-distribution with toys? Home schooling, as you suggested? Maybe we could pose as religious zealots, flogging our answer to The Watchtower on street corners. I have no idea how it could actually work. But maybe you or someone else reading this does.
Kevin
Re: another example of tech company over-reach
(Anonymous) 2022-10-28 08:38 am (UTC)(link)Eric Hoffer! My dad used to hang out with him at Red's Java House.
When I read your posts I think of that old wild self-expressive joyful spirit of San Francisco.
Cetiosaurus
Re: another example of tech company over-reach
(Anonymous) 2022-10-28 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)If I am not mistaken about the source I remember being shocked at something Mr. Hoffer said during the 1968 presidential campaign.
Senator Eugene McCarthy (I was one of his 'get clean for Gene' volunteers at a city not national level) said if he won he would tear down the
White House fence for a picnic.
I think it was Eric Hoffer who said, 'Eugene McCarthy's followers would tear him limb from limb if he was ever elected.'
At the time I was shocked.
Decades later listening to a University radio station and an interview with one of McCarthy's national campaign managers he said, 'The campaign was riddled with CIA agents with pockets full of cash.'
Being perpetually naive, I thought, 'Huh?'
Not to say Eugene was a willing participant in a psy-op but clearly Eric Hoffer knew the score about something going down.
Re: another example of tech company over-reach
(Anonymous) 2022-10-28 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)WOW WOW WOW.
every time i ride my bicycle down 24th street past Cafe La Boheme, i take a huuuge deep breath and SING as loud as i can: "LAAAAA BOHEEEEEEEME!" because i'm courting the owner in case i wanna pitch him later.
i met a Nuyorican on Mission street when i was at the fabric store at 17th, and it was in the middle of lockdowns, and he was doing something akin to spoken word how he talked to his friend.
he was singing with me as i rolled up and i laughed at what he was saying to his friend.
when i got out of the fabric store, he was waiting by my bicycle for me, and so we went on a couple or few dates. ONE at La Boheme for hours where we were sitting outside and we created a PARTY when the Low Riders cruised by on that saturday afternoon.
the La Boheme owner was hella grouchy, but by the time we left, he slipped by and thanked me almost under his grouchy breath for stopping by.
i smiled and KNEW he was the best kind of grouchy people. so now i sing his cafe's name when i pass by... just in case we all wanna meet there at 24th/mission, center of transportation.
an elder first took me to La Boheme when i first moved to san francisco in 1994. said it was where all the best and real artists and writers went.
no more./but soon again.
yeah. Eric Hoffer reminds me of my own late mentor, Kris Kovick, when i read him or see his old interviews.
i never got why she was into Gay Shame even back in '94. she didn't wanna be mainstream. she just wanted to be Left Alone.
on an old YT interview i saw Eric Hoffer's apartment building and James and i were thinking SOMEONE'S GOTTA KNOW WHERE THAT WAS!
he just lived in a ROOM!
it looked like Chinatown. or North Beach.
anyhow, yeah, Cetiosaurus... i want that fun stuff back.
x
Re: another example of tech company over-reach
(Anonymous) 2022-10-28 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)it's like the city built up around this archaic little place at the foot of the bay bridge.)
Re: another example of tech company over-reach
(Anonymous) 2022-10-29 04:41 am (UTC)(link)Murmuration
Re: another example of tech company over-reach
(Anonymous) 2022-10-29 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)it looks like The Interesting People go there.
Re: another example of tech company over-reach
(Anonymous) 2022-10-28 01:46 pm (UTC)(link)Government grants support small publishers. They are paid to create 'Canadian content.' It doesn't
have to be about Canada but simply 'literature' by Canadians.
There is of course no money in it, sales are pathetic unless you are in the chosen few,
and you chase, chase, chase, the golden fly.
You do readings and the odd interview and apply for grants.
And if you are older and MISS THE BOAT on the preferred demographics
you are never going to get an arts council grant, or rarely, so
you're even further into 'no mans land' than you were before.
And you look at your 'colleagues' chasing that golden fly (that weirdly seems to spend
a lot of time in shite)
And NOW, well NOW is a whole other ball game
and you're sick and tired of the meaninglessness of it all
so Yeah you're trying to figure out something new.