ecosophia | Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 64

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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Not transcriber here. But I do clearly remember that one of the (many) testimonies transcribed was by a retired? Emergency Medicine doctor who was himself interned in the hospital where upon he began to try to get help for his ward mate who was in a bad way, and was getting no proper care. The doctor eventually found himself tied to a bed, all his advice unheeded, and when stating he would check out AMA, was refused that option.

Yes, I remember that one. Sad to say it's a more "standard" mistreatment story since he was alone. It's the kind of story they tell when advising you to always have an advocate with you in the hospital, since otherwise the staff can easily persuade themselves that you're "not in your right mind and if you were you would agree with" whatever they want to do to you, "so therefore they should tie you to the bed and do it."

What would have happened if he'd had a loved one who kept visiting, in front of whom he said he wanted to check out AMA, and who said "My dad has said he wants to check out AMA," etc.?

Many years ago when I was in the hospital with the flu (basically I needed some IV fluids), I checked out AMA after 2 days, it was awful, they wanted to keep me for observation and gave me a really hard time about it, and since I didn't have my full energy back yet, that was such a drag. But I didn't need to be there and, need I mention, hospital food sucks.

Now, AMA is another matter when you're talking about patient who cannot walk and bathe and toilet unassisted. To physically get the person out of the bed to the car, how does that even work? (Answer: specialized transport using a stretcher, and in the US that costs about 500-700 for a 10 minute trip.) And to care for a bedridden patient at home is absurdly exhausting, it requires specialized skills, and if you hire someone, put on your seatbelt before you hear what costs! It is shockingly expensive-- even when the home health aides are overworked for a pittance.

Here it is:

https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/203048.html?thread=35539496#cmt35539496

https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/kissimmee-fl-press-conference-your-story-counts-the-untold-atrocities-of-covid-19

Kissimmee, FL Press Conference: Your Story Counts — The Untold Atrocities of COVID-19
October 13, 2022

TRANSCRIPT [EXCERPT]

1:32:37
DR. STEPHEN GUFFANTI: OK. I'm Dr. Stephen Guffanti. I was minding my own business. I'm an emergency room doctor, so my job is to find people who are dying and stop that. And I was admitted to the hospital with covid 10 days after I contracted it, which means I was no longer contagious. My doctor told me I was no longer contagious, but he had no explanation for why I was in isolation or why I was getting Remdesivir, which is an anti-viral evidently used in this protocol.

The fact that my doctor could not explain his treatment plan meant that it was not his treatment plan. So whoever's pulling the strings, it was not the MD whose name was on the order.

So this young man [indicates a photograph], 20 years younger than me, a marathon runner, became my roommate. And I watched him get sicker and sicker. Now I'm an ER doc with my own two cents in the 80s, but I can recognize when somebody's having a hard time breathing. So I grabbed my IV pull, I went over to him, I tested his inspiration volume, and he's running on one fourth of a lung, and I say to him, Keith! Why are you so sick? And he says, I don't know. I said, Do you want me to be your patient advocate? He said, sure.

So I got to the nurse, I say, I'm his patient advocate, let's take a look at his lab. The guy's got a bacterial pneumonia for the last 4 days and nobody's giving him any antibiotics! They're not even working him up! They're watching his pneumonia get worse, watching his white count go up, and they're doing nothing!

So I say, well, the doctor's probably missed this pneumonia. Even though he's the one that ordered the lab! So let's talk to the doctor. Twelve hours later they still would not talk to the doctor. Keith is now looking like this [indicating photograph]. He's drowning in pus and I say to the night nurse, this man needs to see his doctor. She would not tell us who his doctor was.

I got an infectious disease doc on the phone at 3 in the morning because in the emergency room you're allowed to do that. So I did that. And they wouldn't tell the infectious disease doc which of his colleagues was taking care of this guy.

They tied me to my bed and they put me in isolation. And the only reason I can have for them doing that to an MD who is on the spot—- right—- in the medical protocol the MD who is at the bedside has priority over the nurses and any of the other personnel. The only doctor that could have had protocol over me would have been the patient's doctor—- if he showed up at the bedside.

Well, I got tied to my bed. I got put in isolation. I was [?] even though I told them, you don't have to do any of this, I'll sign out AMA [against medical advice]. They wouldn't let me sign out AMA. Finally, some doc came by and said, Why are you here? I said, I'm being held against my will. He released me and let me go home.

When I left that hospital my oxygen saturation was 81. Normal oxygen saturation is between 95 and 100, and if you've got normal lungs and you hold your breath you will never break it down below 90. You'd be lucky to break it down below 95. So my lungs were really damaged. Turned out I had a bronchitis. I started treating myself, I went and got some oxygen and then — [indicating photo] This happens to be a facebook post done at 3 in the morning. The other facebook post I did was the last nurse walking out on the patient that he desperately needed.

That got me here because for some odd reason people think if you're a retired doctor and you've had covid, you know how to treat it. So I talked to Dr. Littell*, I don't know, about a month after I got out, and I just started picking his brain.

All I'm telling you is, this is not real medicine. Medicine does not give mandates. We give advice. Whenever you hear medicine mandate, that's not doctors, that's the government. And I've had patients worse than me that I've brought oxygen to and given them Ivermectin and given them high-dose Vitamin C. And now there's this wave of long-haul covid.

If you take anything from my story, understand this: The hospital has become a jail. Based on the nurses reaction, the doctor is not in charge, and 6 nurses willing to abandon a patient drowning in pus means that this is a systemic problem.

So what have I done? You know, I'm an EM doc so I do whatever it takes. I have replaced half the hospital board. [?] is the fifth board member. If I get [?] on Sarasota Memorial's Hospital's board we can do an investigation into what laws created this chaos.

Now, you're probably not from Sarasota. But out of the 67 counties in Florida, 21 of them have elected hospital boards. So if you belong to a county that has that I highly recommend you go to the board and find out who's going to listen and who's not.

I went of course to doctors and nurses to get on the board because if you get a businessman on the board he has no clue what you're talking about when you talk medicine. We had a guy on the board for 20 years, we asked him, what's informed consent? And he had no idea. Can you imagine being on a hospital board and not knowing what informed consent is?

I've probably talked more than my 3 minutes. Thank you very much for coming here.

[applause]

1:39:44

END OF EXCERPT

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TRANSCRIBER'S NOTES:

* Dr. John Littell's website is https://www.johnlittellmd.com/

See also
"Doctor Restrained, Put Into Solitary Confinement After Advocating For Mistreated COVID Patient
The Stew Peters Show
August 13, 2021
https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2021/08/doctor-restrained-put-into-solitary-confinement-after-advocating-for-mistreated-covid-patient/

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