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Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 64
As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
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With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
"Wow that's strange. A sudden, a huge increase in neurological problems."
(Anonymous) 2022-10-26 11:38 am (UTC)(link)by Steve Kirsch
October 22, 2022
https://rumble.com/v1pvgao-richard-pottorffs-wife-came-down-with-cjd-a-fatal-prion-disease-a-week-afte.html
Steve Kirsch, founder of the Vaccine Safety Foundation, interviews Richard Pottorff and Ginger Bitner, the husband and the mother of 58 year-old Tammy Pottorff who within a week after her second covid jab came down with Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD), an incurable prion disease.
TRANSCRIPT [TWO BRIEF EXCERPTS]
[FIRST EXCERPT]
3:15
STEVE KIRSCH: These [prion] diseases don't happen by chance. So when they do happen, and they're happening in a short amount of time after people get these vaccines. And there are dozens and dozens and dozens of people who are getting these prion diseases within a short amount of time of the vaccine. And that is statistically impossible if the vaccine didn't cause it.
3:49
[END OF FIRST EXCERPT]
[SECOND EXCERPT]
4:56
RICHARD POTTORFF: She was very active. She was very good with numbers. And very good speaking. She had a better sense of direction than I did, I have. And very musically inclined. And she never met anybody she didn't want to talk to.
GINGER BITNER: She was always very active, vivacious, friendly, outgoing. Enjoying life.
STEVE KIRCH: Just to clarify, you're her mother.
GINGER BITNER: Yes I am.
STEVE KIRSCH: So she didn't have any kind of brain abnormalities or anything at all. Perfectly healthy.
GINGER BITNER: Absolutely not.
STEVE KIRSCH: And so when did she start exhibiting symptoms that would be consistent with a prion disease?
GINGER BITNER: Well it took six days for the swelling to go down in her arm and her fingers. And it was underneath her arm as well down her left side. And once that swelling went down— and it was very, very hot the whole time. Unbelievable.
STEVE KIRSCH: Hot. As in to touch.
GINGER BITNER: Yeah. Oh yeah. You didn't have to touch it, you could have your hand four inches away from her and I could feel the heat and she had a knot there also when she came back to the car after she got her second vaccination.
STEVE KIRSCH: Did you go to the doctors and say, hey, what's going on here? I think, you know, we're having a severe reaction.
GINGER BITNER: Well first of all she went back into the CVS store where she got her second vaccination. And her first vaccination. And they said, that's normal. I mean, that can be normal for some people, is the wording. And it'll dissipate. It'll go down. It'll take a little time. So she came to the car and of course we drove on home. It took six days for that swelling to go down, putting ice on it, and so forth. And the very next morning after the swelling went down she woke up and she was shuffling her feet like she, just shuffling. She could not walk normal and she was having difficulty finding her words, to talk to us.
STEVE KIRSCH: OK. So basically she is now suffering from a prion disease six days after she got the vaccine. And perfectly healthy, nothing like this before.
GINGER BITNER: That's correct.
RICHARD POTTORFF: That's right.
STEVE KIRSCH: And it's unmistakable. So you must have gone to, talked to lots of doctors about this in the six, it took you six months before they were able to schedule a spinal tap in order to do the assessment to definitively say that she has CJD, right?
GINGER BITNER: Well it took five months to even get her into Stanford. We tried to get her into Stanford, UCLA, UC San Francisco, and they couldn't see her for six months. And they told us, my gosh, that's terrible, they said,because we've had a very big increase in neurological problems where people need to come here.
STEVE KIRSCH: Wow.
GINGER BITNER: And that's why they're backed up.
STEVE KIRSCH: Wow that's strange. A sudden, a huge increase in neurological problems.
GINGER BITNER: Yeah. And the receptionist on the phone told me that. No doctor ever admitted that or said it.
STEVE KIRSCH: I wonder what could be causing that.
GINGER BITNER: Imagine.
STEVE KIRSCH: Can't figure it out.
RICHARD POTTORFF: [laughs] There's no telling.
STEVE KIRSCH: Yeah. Yeah. So they wouldn't, they didn't, like, when you asked them, hey, why is it so hard? Eh, we've just have a rash and we have no clue what's causing all these but we're just, like, in demand all of a sudden.
GINGER BITNER: That's right. This is the receptionist saying this, not a doctor. A doctor never, every doctor I took her to, and I took her to several, they all [shakes her head]. They wouldn't even consider a connection with the vaccination. At all.
STEVE KIRSCH: Oh! You mean that safe and effective vaccine that she took.
GINGER: Oh yes. In fact the first neurologist she went to indicated it was all in her mind. The second one I took her to, that was in charge of the whole division here in Palo Alto, said, stress.
STEVE KIRSCH: Stress!
GINGER BITNER: Stress can cause these things.
STEVE KIRSCH: Ah, stress.
GINGER BITNER: Right. Hmmm.
STEVE KIRSCH: There you go. So it wasn't until six months later that they actually did the test to find out whether she's got it or not.
GINGER BITNER: That's right.
STEVE KIRSCH: And then they even tried to bury that, right? That it wasn't in the hospital record?
RICHARD POTTORFF: It was but [?] the records.
STEVE KIRSCH: You asked for the records and that wasn't included in the records.
RICHARD POTTORFF: That's right.
STEVE KIRCH: The most important thing wasn't included in the records. How about that.
GINGER BITNER: Hmmm. Imagine. How could that happen.
STEVE KIRSCH: How could that have happened?
GINGER BITNER: Hmmm.
STEVE KIRSCH: Did they have an excuse for why they put everything except for the definitive diagnosis of CJD in the—?
RICHARD POTTORFF: Well they haven't returned our phone calls.
STEVE KIRSCH: So you don't know.
RICHARD POTTORFF: That's right.
GINGER BITNER: No we don't.
10:41
[END OF EXCERPT]
Re: "Wow that's strange. A sudden, a huge increase in neurological problems."
(Anonymous) 2022-10-26 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)Wow, what an interview.
Re: "Wow that's strange. A sudden, a huge increase in neurological problems."
(Anonymous) 2022-10-26 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/185787.html?thread=30995387#cmt30995387
He recounts how after he and his family all got 2x vaxxed, he started realizing something was very wrong with the CDC story about "safe and effective."
There is a link there to Kirsch's full interview with Dr. Thorp on medical censorship, which I highly recommend.
Re: "Wow that's strange. A sudden, a huge increase in neurological problems."
(Anonymous) 2022-10-26 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)Just wanted to post another quick thanks for all the work you do around here. It's much appreciated.
Murmuration
Re: "Wow that's strange. A sudden, a huge increase in neurological problems."
(Anonymous) 2022-10-26 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)Re: "Wow that's strange. A sudden, a huge increase in neurological problems."
(Anonymous) 2022-10-26 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)Classen JB. COVID-19 RNA Based Vaccines and the Risk of Prion Disease. Microbiol Infect Dis. 2021; 5(1): 1-3
ABSTRACT
Development of new vaccine technology has been plagued with problems in the past. The current RNA based SARS-CoV-2 vaccines were approved in the US using an emergency order without extensive long term safety testing. In this paper the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine was evaluated for the potential to induce prion-based disease in vaccine recipients. The RNA sequence of the vaccine as well as the spike protein target interaction were analyzed for the potential to convert intracellular RNA binding proteins TAR DNA binding protein (TDP-43) and Fused in Sarcoma (FUS) into their pathologic prion conformations. The results indicate that the vaccine RNA has specific sequences that may induce TDP-43 and FUS to fold into their pathologic prion confirmations. In the current analysis a total of sixteen UG tandem repeats (ΨGΨG) were identified and additional UG (ΨG) rich sequences were identified. Two GGΨA sequences were found. Potential G Quadruplex sequences are possibly present but a more sophisticated
computer program is needed to verify these. Furthermore, the spike protein, created by the translation of the vaccine RNA, binds angiotensin converting enzyme 2 (ACE2), a zinc containing enzyme. This interaction has the potential
to increase intracellular zinc. Zinc ions have been shown to cause the transformation of TDP-43 to its pathologic prion configuration. The folding of TDP-43 and FUS into their pathologic prion confirmations is known to cause
ALS, front temporal lobar degeneration, Alzheimer’s disease and other neurological degenerative diseases. The enclosed finding as well as additional potential risks leads the author to believe that regulatory approval of the
RNA based vaccines for SARS-CoV-2 was premature and that the vaccine may cause much more harm than benefit.
Re: "Wow that's strange. A sudden, a huge increase in neurological problems."
(Anonymous) 2022-10-27 10:29 am (UTC)(link)https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/post-jab-prion-disease-case-history
there is a comment worth quoting here:
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https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/post-jab-prion-disease-case-history/comment/9990736
A Midwestern Doctor
Writes The Forgotten Side of Medicine
Oct 26
A few months ago I and colleagues spent a week analyzing the results of a large vaccine injury survey Steve Kirsch sent out to his followers. One of the most striking results I found in it was the high rate (typically extremely rare) of prion disease reported by the respondents. This was a huge red flag to all of us (survey results/analysis can be found here: https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/analysis-of-a-large-vaccine-injury ).
My own suspicion is that these diseases are either being caused by the spike protein impairing the physiologic zeta potential (https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/why-does-every-vaccine-often-cause), the vaccine spike protein having a prion forming domain (https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/where-did-covid-19-come-from-and ). In addition to causing prion diseases in the brain, I believe this protein misfolding also accounts for the highly unusual blood clots the vaccine forms (https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/how-do-vaccines-cause-sudden-death).
Re: "Wow that's strange. A sudden, a huge increase in neurological problems."
(Anonymous) 2022-10-28 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)I struggle to understand how a prion disease could develop in a week; those diseases generally take months to progress from first weird symptom to debilitating disease and death. And they often take years to incubate; for example, a French woman who pricked herself with a contaminated needle in a CJD lab in grad school at age 23 only came down with symptoms of the disease 9 years later when she was in her 30s.
The interviewee says her daughter was diagnosed CJD via spinal tap. That's not a conclusive way to diagnose the disease. It can find maaybeee evidence of prion-like stuff in the fluid, which combined with symptoms can suggest prion disease. But people naturally have some prion-like proteins in their body, and the detectable levels in brain fluid are usually low. The only way to confirm CJD is to autopsy the person's brain tissue after death and see the swiss cheese damage. (I know, it's super gross.)
That's not to say this scenario (1 week after the foxx, she develops CJD) couldn't happen, I don't know enough about the biophysics of protein folding to say. But it's weird.
However, the high swelling and fever described in the interview do sound like they could have caused an encephalitis-style brain injury. That can happen in the aftermath of other disease (measles is a classic case of this.)
It's really disturbing, no matter what. Neurological damage no matter what the cause from an unnecessary vaccine that's being promoted to the general population is simply unacceptable. I just wish we had better data. Why does the US even have VAERS and the CDC if they aren't doing their job?
Anyway, thanks for posting this.
-Ms. Krieger