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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2022-08-30 04:59 pm

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 56

if onlyAs we move further into the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.    

Re: A Scream...

(Anonymous) 2022-09-05 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
OK! OK! wow... talk about knowing one's audience... i didn't!
never mind.
i'll be quiet.
wrong place.

how silly of me! i'm ON THE INNERWEBS!

i've got to stop...

erika

(Re-posting? or deleted on purpose?)

(Anonymous) 2022-09-05 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
i'm re-posting this but it well may have been deleted by our host because of how i started it off. Eloi being not intended as an insult as much as me realizing Reality and Where WE Are as humans.

i also don't like to do what the innerwebs inspire: just disappearing without explanation. i talked with James this morning and i'm not backing off out of tantrum but out of a need to make MY world as i cannot even fit in THIS one and since the computer world is a given (shrug), i'm just a bleating ole lady, one of the last who remembers and came of age in The Juke Joints.

this last reference to James Cone's book, "The Cross and the Lynching Tree," where he says the church enabled the struggle during Martin Luther King Jr's era, but the juke joint, where it was admitted: "if i could be a niggra on saturday night, i'd NEVER wanna be white"-- which is a testament to how FUN the juke joint world was because everyone wants to be white, even white folks.

and James Cone said the juke joint didn't do a thing with all that energy and power, except give its own transcendent kind of release in the moment...

...my posthumous living argument to what Cone said was: "NO! Watch THIS!" as i learned how to come up in that environment and get beneath the simple hump grind and release and into the deep 3am philosophical talks... i learned from the players how they wanna love but MUST love in this culture... but as a woman i learned how to not open my legs because once you go THERE, it's unnecessary. it was my little girl trick... just to look in eyes and talk... ask questions... want nothing.

but... i cannot "write" that as an idea. it just was MY experience.

so that's why i'm coiling back in and feel it's important to not just invest in this Papa G's joint as a community and disappear. that is mean cruel irresponsible. so i'll go beyond the etiquette of this machined medium and over-share even as i back off and go inner.

i've got to BE my own Pretty One... all ALONE now.

(Temporary Reality gets this what i do because SHE does the same thing and yet she doesn't preach cajole or even tell anyone how she does "she." / that means there ARE more of us out there and we will find each other when it is time)

oh yeah! i wrote ALL THIS below and this now because right after Hearthspirit acknowledged i was telling Truth, for a day and a half i couldn't STOP seeing 11:11/2:22/4:44/5:55 day or middle-of NIGHT. so i wrote this below because... as we used to say a la Zeppelin: i've got to ramble on (specifically in THE REAL).

so a break to the internet. who knew that'd be a new "motorcycle" road trip cross country going it alone standing still???

i'm fifty-five but still CANNOT drive 55 standing still. i'll report back when/if anything happens. or Temporary Reality will and can share.

that's my girl. as local as i can get. she dyes with onion skins. i KNEW we'd dig each other and fall in love! i'm getting for bus rides back and forth in the future.

much to do in the real to clean and clear space.

so here's what i wrote... last of my Endless Pages for awhile... at least til i get Mattias Desmet's book at the library. saving up for my teeth. yeah...i'm hella broke. James will pay but he's paid enough and i like scary goals (using my final fear of broken teeth and a rotting living death to HUSTLE).

HERE's what i wrote and may have been deleted but i hope not. i'm being as REAL as i can be and it's hardly ever PRETTY. what comes after is pretty. like Scotlyn and i coming to an understanding.

Understanding. that's also a big word. a part of all this intended divisiveness.

Papa G i hope you don't keep my sorta good-bye letter from them all. too many engineers between guts and real life as it is and i'm doing my best.

and if we ARE to be Eloi, we should accept it and work with or AROUND that fact. i don't acknowledge it in us to judge. no time for passive judging. i'm for creatively working with REALITY.

no one seems to remember Reality, though. it is what is IS!

here continues the endless page if Papa G puts it through:

-----------------------------------

dear ecosophians-

okay-- so the Eloi it shall be!
at first i was surprised that dear "getting it so far" Hearthspirit would come back so shallow but that's what she does what WE do and online- she deflects discomfort or a new direction in thought by saying something cute and pat that i don't understand and underlines it with a link out of HERE.

classic deflection.

i don't take the bait. i'm not going to any outside cute link that'll take me out of THIS. i am a pitbull regarding this love in real life thing and what i know, have done, and see, and hear.

wanted to share. / til now. i give up. what i had was glorious but mine alone and i wanted to share with the class because people have always talked about me then in pain admitted they envied me.

but envy allows their morning hate to return because they don't wanna do the work the risks the terror and joy themselves.

the computer world may be fun fine and have a lot of upsides. hell i'm here! but the social downsides ARE TRAINING US.... KILLING US EACH OTHER and all of LIFE.

this is in Mattias Desmet's new book (have not yet read) about us being mechanized in our thinking AND someone (haidt?) had written how the innerwebs--social media-- are training the kids in their social situations.

there is no NUANCE in these things. and the medium IS the message when i write all this stuff i think i'm saying and all i get back is, "i met my mate online," as if that proves anything AT ALL.

i'm flummoxed that happened HERE. but it's EVERYWHERE. it's how we think and are trained to respond.

even MATTIAS, the Gent from Ghent, who writes about this as his central theme, fell for this new online mechanized way of being by answering a troll from his past, in THREE parts. the troll writers, a creepy couple, did that twitter thing where you piggy back on someone's tweets to get to THEIR FOLLOWERS. they personally trashed Mattias in an unreadable untethered accusatory rant, and he fell for it and he's probably not even ON twitter (yet?).

so Mattias wrote a book about this and STILL he himself fell for the bait and he and Malone defended themselves in not inches but feet of copy, and gave that creepy couple a TON of publicity after he reached out personally (old ways) and they ignored him (new ways meeting old ways kill old ways).

so Mattias wrote and wrote, giving the creepy couple the promotion they wanted for THEIR BOOK. but i felt like someone had wiped on me after even glancing at the kerfuffle. it's boring online internet kerfuffle.

i never said you couldn't meet people online or in the metaverse or wherever's not in the real world. great. i love electrified vibrators and i've had phone sex with my customer service rep, just ordering sneakers online. tech is great. met James from a fan email and we're over twenty years best friends and family.

BUT in a world of all social media and social anxiety, we and our children are completely socially retarded and people meeting online in person on all fours and coming in your face is coming to a town near you if it's not already there.

i'm not gonna write about in person stuff anymore because well, this is obviously mixed company and it's obvious people wanna hold on or just argue tiny points with me when the world is dying because we are missing socializing steps and skills.

great. meet EVERYONE online.

but that's not the world i want so i'm gonna just lurk more and not just be a dancing bear here talking about how good it COULD be in person. i was trying to remind and show what's possible with each other. i remember!

but the responses here show me/remind me, "it is what it is" and it all just has to burn itself out and start again when it's natural.

i'm just gonna let things BE and keep my secrets and what i know to myself like James has been saying all along. but it's tragic to me because when you go towards Barry White over Zuckerberg's world ALONE? ...WOW.

i'll just leave it there.

(smile)

erika
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Re: (Re-posting? or deleted on purpose?)

[personal profile] scotlyn 2022-09-06 09:13 am (UTC)(link)
Hi Erika,

"when the world is dying"

Is this true? Is this what you see?

Maybe... just maybe... the WORLD is WAY bigger than that... maybe, just maybe, she is bigger than our fears, our stumbles, our deflections, and is OUT THERE, just loving...

And you, of all people, know how and why she is, and exactly what that feels like when you "get beneath the simple hump grind and release and into the deep 3am philosophical talks... i learned from the players how they wanna love but MUST love..."

Maybe you learned this from the WORLD, which is not dying, but busy loving...

Be well, stay free! and BE loved, beloved!

Re: A Scream...

(Anonymous) 2022-09-05 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Please don't be quiet. I read the whole post and found this particular sentence very insightful ...

"the world is full of bored people EATING and buying everything to death, including EACH OTHER because that's what those apps teach us to do: consume each other."

There were a lot of other insightful thoughts in the comment as well. I just singled out one. Thank you for taking the time to post.

Re: A Scream...

(Anonymous) 2022-09-06 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
thank you for saying so.

and good morning.

(huge relieved smile)

x

erika