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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2022-08-30 04:59 pm

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 56

if onlyAs we move further into the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.    

Re: Faustian cancer

[personal profile] dendroica 2022-09-01 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
These authors are controversial, but there is this:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9012513/

Innate immune suppression by SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccinations: The role of G-quadruplexes, exosomes, and MicroRNAs

I would not expect the spike protein to be the major player here, with the fact that these injections cause our bodies to express foreign proteins and thereby trigger auto-attack as a plausible general mechanism (with auto-attack then triggering general tolerance/immunosuppression).

If this is true it will likely be a general side effect of mRNA vaccination and not specific to these "vaccines".

Re: Faustian cancer

[personal profile] boccaccio 2022-09-04 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks Mark! In your reaction the word *general* stands out for me. Do I understand correctly that IF indeed mRNA vaccination leads to general tolerance/immunosuppression, that could be the cause of not just reinfections with SARS-CoV-2 but also the rise in cancer and the increased occurence of all kinds of infectious disease we're seeing (monkeypox, polio, tbc, etc)?

Re: Faustian cancer

[personal profile] dendroica 2022-09-04 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes indeed, IF that is true. The jury is still out on general immune suppression and it could also be a "reprogramming" (see the other thread started yesterday) in which case the immune system would end up better at some tasks and worse at others, and detecting nascent cancer cells could be one of the things it is worse at.

After reading the latest Seneff/McCullough paper though, it is also clear that there are *specific* mechanisms by which these particular injections could cause cancer, either mediated by the design of the mRNA or by the spike protein itself.

So while I still personally suspect that mRNA injection in general will prove to be carcinogenic, I can't claim to know exactly what is going on here.