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In previous MMs, it has been discussed that individuals who are the focus of strong public emotions such as lust (porn stars) and near-adoration (pop icons) are recipients of a lot of energy that they need to be able to handle – otherwise, they follow the self-destructive path of booze and drugs, etc. OK; I understand that. My question pertains to persons who are recipients of a huge amount of another strong public emotion: hatred. From my remote perspective, nothing seems to happen: I imagine that persons such as Stalin and Chairman Mao (to name a couple of big-time oppressors in the modern electronic age) must have been the objects of intense hatred from hundreds of millions of persons day-in and day-out for decades, but judging from appearances, it seems to have been water off a duck’s back for them. Nowadays public rage against their leaders is on the ascendant in many parts of the world, so I figure that this is a timely issue. What are your views on the power and effect of mass-hatred towards specific individuals and why and how it differs from the other emotions mentioned above?

Thanks, by the way, for your observations on the occult dimensions of modern politics in the past (The King in Orange).

Cobalt Jocular Crow

I wondered about that myself. The current directed hatred of local Neo-Pagans has been towards various Supreme Court Justices. I wonder how their directed hate affects these Justices in their work.

I do know that when Trump got Covid 19, they rejoiced and celebrated. As for me, I felt the need to separate myself from them as the energy was washing over me. It was in black and red waves. I had to do repeated cleansing.

Many of these individuals, including Stalin and Mao, were also the recipients of equally huge amounts of love and admiration in the countries over which they ruled. Stalin, for one, was venerated as a quasi-saint by vast numbers of Russians after his death, and you used to be able to buy icon-like images of him in Russia for veneration. The strong love and the strong hate neutralize one another. There is an obvious current example of this powerful process of energy-neutralization here in the USA.

My meditative take on the tendency of popular performers to dissolve in drug abuse is that it's not the performance "high" that does the damage, but the boring down-time in between performances. What does a touring musician do between shows, but travel, eat, sleep, and wait for the next show? (Someone should talk to Sir Paul McCartney about his apparently healthy lifestyle. I hear that he STILL puts on a good show.) Other performers might be anxious about whether their new work will be well received, whether they're getting properly paid, whether the manager might be a thief. Travel is bad for long-time personal relationships (though perhaps good for very short-term relationships). Off-stage, it doesn't sound like much fun at all, so maybe drugs are a refuge. On the other hand, your widely-hated public figures? They're playing a busy game of "survival among peers", with no place for vigilance-sapping chemicals.

Lathechuck

Hatred is just as much a gift of energy as adoration. Hitler, Stalin, and Mao all thrived on the hatred of their enemies -- it gave them a big boost of energy.

Thanks, JMG and all, for your contributions!

Would it be correct in assuming that mockery does not provide such a gift of energy?

Cobalt Jocular Crow a.k.a Ron M

That's correct, but only if it's genuinely funny. Laughter banishes, and the more wholehearted the laughter, the more potent it is.

Perfect! Thanks for the 'recipe', JMG!

Cobalt Jocular Crow a.k.a. Ron M

So the Left is actually providing Trump and MAGA some potent energy with their intense hatred of them? That's amusing, especially since Trump seems to put it good use in advancing his cause.

This makes me wonder about something. 1) Could a Trump/MAGA supporter actually make a spiritual practice of directing adoration at Trump for the explicit purpose of strengthening him and his movement? 2) Is this perhaps why pharaohs, Roman emperors, and other god-kings sponsored cultic worship of themselves?

1 and 2) Yes, exactly. I don't recommend it, as it's a good way to induce megalomania in the person on the receiving end, but yes, it can be done.

And this explains why cults of personality so reliably end with the person at the heard of it as a raging egotistical lunatic...

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