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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2022-07-03 11:36 pm

Magic Monday

It's getting on for midnight, so we can proceed with a new Magic Monday. Ask me anything about occultism and I'll do my best to answer it. With certain exceptions, any question received by midnight Monday Eastern time will get an answer. Please note:  Any question received after then will not get an answer, and in fact will just be deleted. I've been getting an increasing number of people trying to post after these are closed, so will have to draw a harder line than before.) If you're in a hurry, or suspect you may be the 143,916th person to ask a question, please check out the very rough version 1.0 of The Magic Monday FAQ hereAlso: I will not be putting through or answering any more questions about practicing magic around children. I've answered those in simple declarative sentences in the FAQ. If you read the FAQ and don't think your question has been answered, read it again. If that doesn't help, consider remedial reading classes; yes, it really is as simple and straightforward as the FAQ says. 

The image?  That's the twenty-ninth card in The Sacred Geometry Oracle. Card 29, The Dodecahedron, when upright tells you that spiritual forces are involved in the situation; when reversed, it warns you that you will have to embrace personal change in order to deal with what's happening.. The sun in the upper left corner of the image tells you that this card belongs to the final third of the oracle, which corresponds to Nwyfre, the principle of spirit and meaning.  We've completed our passage through the first two of the basic root functions of sacred geometry -- √3, the principle of the vesica piscis and the equilateral triangle, and √2, the principle of the square and its diagonal -- and now we're working with the √5, the seed from which the Golden Section unfolds and resolves all back into unity.


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Re: The German Gods are not the only ones

[personal profile] causticus 2022-07-04 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Fascinating. I feel drawn to both Germanic and Mesopotamian pantheons, on and off. Do you have any resources on Mesopotamian polytheism as how it's practiced today? I can't seem to find much of anything from the usual internet searches.

Secondly, it seems that Enlil has made an appearance as well. I recently read Damien Echols book on angelic magic and toward the end of the book he shares with readers his experience of a sudden theophany that came upon him like a ton of falling bricks one day after decades of intense work and invocations of every Hebraic angel entity under the sun. During a ritual, his perception completely gave way to nothing but the word "Enlil" being etched across his vision. He says he didn't even know who or what Enlil was at the time. After that experience and a rudimentary amount of research he says he began an intense devotional relationship with Enlil.

I do wonder if this means that Enlil might in fact be one of the actual Gods behind the "YHWH" moniker (I think there's at least four). And that the angels are Enlil's creations? Not much of a leap at all, considering that the Levantine God "El" might be the same as Enlil. And most of the angels have the suffix "-el" in their names. I have no way of knowing if there is any truth to this, but it's fascinating to contemplate nonetheless. And finally it lends more credence to the idea that Judaism might in fact be a product of a broader reform movement within the late Iron Age Mesopotamian religion, with the henotheistic cults of Assur, Marduk, and Su'en being antecedents to the Judean version.
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Re: The German Gods are not the only ones

[personal profile] jprussell 2022-07-04 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Not exactly a resource intended for modern practice, but The Treasures of Darkness by Thorkild Jacobsen is a history of Mesopotamian religion and includes some good translations of a lot of the religious poetry.

Re: The German Gods are not the only ones

(Anonymous) 2022-07-04 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
FWIW, the Japanese work that was my third data point concerning the rise of Odin's prominence *also* draws heavily off Mesopotamian mythology, often conflated with Judeo-Christian (the Tower of Babel shows up under a Babylonian name, for instance). And a different Japanese property that's another franchise that loves to grab mythology from anywhere and everywhere features multiple figures from Mesopotamian myth extremely prominently (Gilgamesh, Enkidu, and Ishtar all come to mind). So that's a data point or two.

(Side note on that which I was too late to get to last week for JMG: I don't think we're looking at the Norse gods contesting their home turf, but something else: I've got had a hunch for a while that there's a conflation of Ragnarok, Armageddon, and possibly a third last battle myth that's harder to see because it's still nascent going on right now, and what I'm seeing now would be consistent with that.)

- pretentious_username

Re: The German Gods are not the only ones

(Anonymous) 2022-07-05 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
Yes... I, too, have had the distinct feeling since mid-2020 that there is a Cosmic Pivot going on. And currently, some kind of battle.

- Cicada Grove

Re: The German Gods are not the only ones

(Anonymous) 2022-07-05 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
You might enjoy this resource as much as I do:
https://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/
https://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/catalogue/catalogue1.htm#inana

As for whether Yahweh is Enlil, Enki, or another, the debate is fascinating:
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread952658/pg1
https://www.city-data.com/forum/judaism/535287-origins-hebrew-god.html
http://robertmascharan.blogspot.com/2012/02/yhwh-decoding-his-origins-shocking.html

-Myriam










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Re: The German Gods are not the only ones: Sumerian sources

[personal profile] neptunesdolphins 2022-07-05 02:51 pm (UTC)(link)
The main source to go to is The Temple of Sumer at Facebook. They have a list of books, people, groups, and on-line chats. And are very serious about their Gods.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/TempleofSumer