Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 6

[ecosophia]

The semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a gargantuan (and increasing) number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

Re: Another wrong kind of breakthrough

[(Anonymous)]

Something I've been wondering about deaths. Those in the know last year said to look for 'excess deaths' being reported in the data to determine if covid was a legit concern, or if it was just a strong flu masquerading as a real pandemic. Sure enough, excess deaths did appear, by a noticeable amount. I figured, huh, it's a thing, and mentally moved on. Now, having spent a bit more time meditating on it, how would we know if that bump in deaths weren't deaths of despair instead? A la something like what happened in the fall of the Soviet Union. Overdose deaths, suicides, alcohol related, and so on.

Re: Another wrong kind of breakthrough

[(Anonymous)]

One solution would be to figure out how much excess suicide, drug, alcohol, etc. related deaths occurred, and subtract them from the excess death rates and see what happens. This data is very hard to find, but frankly it looked to me as someone who works in a hospital that those played a much larger role than Covid.