Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 6

[ecosophia]

The semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a gargantuan (and increasing) number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

Nasal rinse and throat gargles

[escorcher]

In the spirit of appropriate technology and route 1 common sense, it would seem to me the best way to handle CoVid is not to let it get a good hold. At heart, it is effectively a souped up cold that can get extra nasty if it gets in too deep, so hitting it quick and early in the nose and throat makes sense to me. Some ideas and reasoning in the two links. This is not advice, just information. Use it as you will.

https://www.georgekramermd.com/hydrogen-peroxide-gargling-nasal-rinses-may-prevent-viral-infection/

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340433132_Hypertonic_saline_nasal_irrigation_and_gargling_should_be_considered_as_a_treatment_option_for_COVID-19

Re: Nasal rinse and throat gargles

[escorcher]

I'd personally say the more dilute % of hydrogen peroxide mouthwash sounds more sensible to me (from first link).

Re: Nasal rinse and throat gargles

[temporaryreality]

Not advice, just narrative:

Per Stephen Buhner's research (see his Herbal Antivirals) and my own use, I've found echinacea to be less of the touted all-system immune booster, but extremely effective for mucous-membrane issues (mouth only if using an alcohol-based tincture). I treat sore throats with it to extremely good effect (as well as sore taste buds, or inflamed gums or bitten lips. It also helps with reflux to some degree). The mechanism by which it works strengthens the immune capabilities of mucosal cells (in addition to promoting healing).

I have seen indication, however, that SARS2 doesn't necessarily "bind" well with mouth/mucosa as it does to those of the nasal passages - so the nasal irrigation method might actually be more effective. See https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/07/a-round-up-of-anti-covid-nasal-spray-research.html for more info.

Re: Nasal rinse and throat gargles

[escorcher]

Interesting tempreality. Thanks!

Re: Nasal rinse and throat gargles

[weilong]

Here in Japan it has long been common to teach children to wash their hands and gargle after coming home (wash away anything that you may have picked up in school/town/etc.). Not sure if it's really useful, but it's an old idea.

I have been doing nasal irrigation for a long time, with good success. One tip is to be careful about how often you do it. I do it if I have been doing something dusty (mowing weeds, sawing wood, spreading wood ash on the field), or if I feel stuffy. It feels good to clean that area out once in a while. On the other hand, the function of the mucous is to capture dust and such and remove it. Washing away the mucous could inhibit that function. Same goes for anything, but I try it and see how it works for me, and make adjustments as necessary. As our host is so fond of saying, your mileage may vary.