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Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 6
The semi-open posts I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a gargantuan (and increasing) number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
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(Anonymous) 2021-09-14 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)To my mind we all have A LOT of scientifically valid questions that have been met with Ad Hominem attacks. Not right here of course thanks to our host.
I've got two things in mind, one is a series of questions. These questions are meant to possibly before copying and pasting and/or mailing out to relevant organizations. Everyone here has helped shaped this in my mind. I really do hope it helps.
The other is traditional tools of union organizations. I.E. Strikes, slow downs, sit ins, walk outs. Please feel free to add to and edit these as well.
Though business that have the 100 employees and are against the mandates might think of splitting the corporations to be under the 100 person mark. I work/worked for a variety of companies that are actually several different companies owned by a holding company. "Wholly owned subsidiary."
So now that my hackles are up I'm trying to gather questions feel free to add your own or edit mine to be less confrontational.
1. What’s the status of instituting testing for the vaccinated due to breakthrough infections? It seems if we are going to worry about a flu this much we should be equally worried and perhaps more so about the vaccinated that are getting infections. After all wouldn’t that imply that the virus is adapting to the protections and is likely to overrun it?
2. Further being as the Delta variant is significantly less lethal, at what point are we going to admit the virus has evolved into a cold/flu like disease? Normal viral evolution tends towards more infectious but less lethal, so we might expect the same with further variants.
3. My family has already had COVID. When will you start doing antibody testing on those exposed who have a demonstrated natural immunity/resistance which is more effective than these “leaky" vaccines?
4. What legal protections are being afforded to the vaccinated? I.E. Regarding the known side effects of TIA, Enlarged Hearts, ADE, the odd interactions it is having with some woman and their reproductive systems, i.e. spontaneous abortions, and weird alterations in their normal cycles? How about the sudden deaths due to vaccination, probably but not always related to the TIA and Enlarged hearts showing up as heart attacks and strokes?
5. It seems like a massive red flag, scientifically speaking, that the control group for these vaccines was vaccinated. Wouldn’t that imply that we would have no idea what the side effects might be? Or at the very least it would seem to eliminate the scientific oversight of side effects. (Thanks Brother Josephus)
6. Why are we running the PCR tests at such a high cycle rate that we are virtually guaranteed to get false positives?
7. How are we addressing what is essentially a bait and switch due to the FDA approving a DIFFERENT vaccine than the one that is currently given?
8. If masks were going to work don’t you think they would’ve done so by now? How long are we going to keep this up?
9. Are we going to go back to having to eat outside in tents? How is it scientific that you CAN get COVID IN a restaurant but you CAN’T get COVID in a tent outside of the same restaurant?
10. When are you going to be addressing criticisms of Fauci being involved in funding the gain of function research from the Wuhan Labs?
11. When are you going to be addressing criticisms of Fauci experiencing direct financial gain from these experimental vaccines?
12. When can we admit that experimental vaccines are not guaranteed to work, as indeed is in the literature from the vaccines?
13. When are we going to start panicking about the actual leading causes of death in America? I.E. Heart Disease, and Diabetes. If this was about saving lives wouldn’t it make sense to start with the demonstrated highest causes of death?
14. What are you going to do when you have staff reductions due to medical professionals refusing to get vaccinated? How about utility employees? What about average city employees? We are already in the midst of a labor shortage. Does it make sense to eliminate/limit essential services in a time like this?
15. Tell me when will any of these questions be answered scientifically and not just with ad hominem attacks like “anti-vaxxer” or “conspiracy theorist?”
Union tools/slogans. In my mind there is a powerful image of nurses/doctors in scrubs on strike, they are right outside the hospital/across the street wherever is legal and the sign says "Government won’t let us help."
The rest of these are early idea slogans and some of them are politically aimed at the president. If you are Pro-Biden and anti-mandate I do want you on our side, I have no doubt that you are following your heart politically and I do not wish to throw stones at you.
We would love to help but the government won’t let us
Government won’t let us help.
We were ESSENTIAL when this started. We still are.
Still ESSENTIAL.
How Much REVENUE do you want to lose?
NEITHER of us is making money right now.
Boycott until No Mandates
Is your wallet hurting yet?
Biden would rather you die than get the flu
Abandoning you like he did Afghanistan
Had enough? Vote populist.
Abandoned by the ACLU
Follow the science, not the scientist.
Follow the money not the science.
Science shouldn’t be a religion
My Body My Choice works both ways
Refuse to be a GMO (thanks Erika)
I identify as employed
I identify as essential
I identify as free
Columbia protect us
Uncle Sam wants you! To stand up for Freedom
How many defaults til the stock market crashes?
The point is we the people are not powerless here. Minimum estimates of 20%-30% of the population with some saying it's probably much higher. Here I'm thinking of the one shotters. I really do want this to be all are welcome, but was being deliberately inflammatory. If you got the vaccine and are against the mandates you are welcome.
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