Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 5

[ecosophia]

The semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a huge number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry, where did the Romanian priest alert us to this?

[(Anonymous)]

It was transmitted on church channels which then via SMSs, Telegram and Whatsapp by the church goers

but it ended weeks later also in alternative Romanian press:


It is in Romanian so I linked translation
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ro&u=https://www.activenews.ro/stiri/Se-ridica-marii-duhovnici-de-la-Sfantul-Munte-Athos-VACCINUL-ANTI-COVID-ESTE-O-INSELACIUNE.-Arhimandritul-Partenie-Staretul-Sf.-Manastiri-a-Sfantului-Pavel-Nu-ma-vaccinez-si-nu-dau-binecuvantare-nimanui-pentru-vaccinare-164612&prev=search&pto=aue

Searching for it I saw that Google wouldn't show the result unless I specified the site specifically.

Thanks for making me search for it

[methylethyl]

If it's any help, here's an English-language article about Archimandrite Parthenius of St. Paul monastery on Mt. Athos (same guy your Romanian article speaks of) and his views on the virus and the vaccine, though the Romanian version quotes him at greater length:

https://orthochristian.com/136688.html

It says, among other things: "In the same talk, the respected Elder emphasizes that he does not bless anyone to receive the coronavirus vaccine, because it is too much in line with what is written in Revelation 13, which describes the seal that will be required for people to buy or sell, or live an ordinary life.

The Elder notes that this is not exactly the same thing, but the similarities are apparent. It is especially telling, the Elder believes, that the companies that produce the vaccine are exempt from any liability, which is a mockery of the people.

A couple of other related articles from the Orthodox world, if anyone's interested:

https://orthochristian.com/139871.html

choice quote: “They are already saying that the coronavirus will come even stronger in the autumn so they can influence the rest of the people! But all this troubles us and causes us, justifiably of course, to be suspicious. And that is why we see the work of the devil behind all of this,” Fr. Philotheos warns.

“We hope in the enlightenment of God and in the goodwill of many Christians and intelligent people who see this and resist it and sense that something is happening behind it all. And as you can see, many things will be revealed. The grace of God will reveal them.”

“That’s why we are pained and worried to see this situation now, and we implore God’s grace and the Panagia to guard her people, God’s people,” the elder concludes. "

The article also notes: "Several other Athonite elders have made several warnings, including Elder Parthenios, the abbot of St. Paul’s Monastery, Elder Euthymius of the Holy Resurrection Kallyva in Kapsala, who was a disciple of St. Paisios, Elder Gabriel of the Kelli of St. Christodoulos of Patmos, also a spiritual child of St. Paisios, and Elder Paul of Vouleftiria, a doctor of molecular biology and biomedicine." But alas, doesn't have a separate article or quotes for each of those.

And also: https://orthochristian.com/138244.html

This article reports that of the ~2000 monks on Mt. Athos, only 300 requested to be vaccinated, and that Vatopedi monastery "considers the Pfizer vaccine ineffective and “inappropriate” and is conducting its own medical research to provide options."

There seem to be a lot of Orthodox elders in the Greek-speaking world, and on Mt. Athos, willing to say "no" to the covid hype and vaccine push. I wish their counterparts in the English-speaking world were less timid.