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Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 5

The semi-open posts I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a huge number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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I came across this thread with many anecdotes.

https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message4901000/pg1

Anyone here experienced similar trend?

...though just as much evolution occurs during replication in unvaxxed people

That's not quite my understanding. The key point is that vaxxed tend to encourage the survival of mutants with different spike proteins. Those mutants have, after all, a better chance of evading the imperfect immune response produced by the vaccines. There is no such advantage in the unvaxxed. There is an evolutionary pressure in anything but full sterilizing immunity.

The evolutionary mechanism seems much the same to me as what drives the development of antibiotic resistance.
(Apologies to Geert Van den Bossche if I've butchered anything too badly in this layperson's summary.)

*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*

Well, the Soviet Union and Mao's China managed it with considerably lower levels of energy and surveillance technology than we have now. So it certainly seems possible.

As a wise man once said, it's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. However, there are a lot of indications that decentralization is the wave of the future. I hope that the current push for totalitarian control is just the death throes of a system on its way out. On the other hand, even that could last for quite a long time, and decentralized systems could still be very unpleasant in many places. It's going to get interesting, that much is for sure.

Hello! Hope everyone is well. I just wanted to add the experience of my family to the general data pool being collected here.

There's 10 of us in my close extended family, all living in a similar area. 3 older adults, 7 younger adults (20s-30s), and one young child that I'm not counting. 6 are vaccinated, 4 are not. None of us have had confirmed covid until last week when three of my vaccinated family (two different households, and they said, no contact between them in the week prior) tested positive and were down for the count with flu-like symptoms. They're all on the mend now thankfully. But it's just interesting to me that the first covid cases in my close family were in those vaccinated. Although for what it's worth, we're fairly certain that 3 of us who are unvaccinated had covid back in 02/2020, but we have no way to know for sure.

Another data point, purely speculation on my part, but just throwing this out there to add to the pile of suspicious evidence.

My brother-in-law recently went into the emergency room for heart complications, which is unusual as he's only 30. Now, they say he probably has a history of stressing his heart due to breathing problems, but this is the first he's known he had any issues. I don't know when he was vaccinated, but probably some time ago, as he works in a hospital.

Another data point, again purely speculation, and I'm not even sure I want to go down this thought road, but it keeps occurring to me. My father passed away earlier this year, two weeks after getting his first shot. He's had a long history of heart issues himself, but as far as we knew, he was in a relapse, and hadn't been having any issues. But he had a heart attack during a separate surgery, and although they were able to stabilize him, he had another heart attack later that week while in the ICU. They told us, given that he had both heart attacks in the hospital with as quick of a response as possible, they weren't quite sure what happened and why their interventions weren't more help.

So, just some strangeness from this last year.

Cheers,
Cym

In case you need a laugh, I came across this headline:

Babylon Bee: Immune System Criticized As Anti-Science

https://babylonbee.com/news/immune-system-criticized-as-anti-science

Anyone else come across any humor regarding the virus? Please share!

Hello, I am in the Bellingham Washington community of Columbia. If anyone is nearby, and wants to meetup at Elizabeth Park, or somewhere else reasonably close, you can send me a message. Remove the dashes and include the period: a-r-c-h-a-i-c.r-e-f-l-e-c-t-i-o-n-s at G mail .com . We can share stories and practice rhetoric.

Teal Bounding Anteater

I had been on the fence about homeschooling, but no longer.
I think that what is being done to kids in school is child abuse. I do not want to subject my kids to it, and I do not want them to grow up thinking that kind of thing is normal or acceptable.
I figure that one of the central tasks of a parent is to turn the children into fully-functional, independent adults. School used to support that in a lot of ways, but I think now it is mostly an obstacle to it.

On a broader societal level, we are creating a generation with all of the problems that you mention, as well as cognitive/developmental disabilities. I fear that they will not be able to adequately meet the challenges that face them in the years of our civilization's decline. Things could get really ugly when the covid generation meets the war or the depression or the famine, or whatever history throws their way.

I heard Cdc guidelines say if one dies within 2 weeks of being vaccinated, you are listed as being unvaccinated as the antibodies haven’t had time to form.

I know. They've made so many decisions lately which tell me that there are serious problems with the vaccines, and I'm better off waiting. Of course, I'm also one of the people with the "I'd much rather die" reaction; even so, there's too much evidence they are dangerous, short term...

I wonder how much of this acedia might have to do with the involvement of Lower Astral Plane entities? I have long thought that the emotional craziness and toxic energy of the last five to six years is being stoked by LAPEs who are feeding off all the negative energy we are so willingly providing them. I believe these entities are the same things as what Chinese folk-Buddhism calls "hungry ghosts".

I think it's been "common cold coronavirus #5" all along. My concerns with it relate not to the virus itself, but the reaction to it: after this scale of panic, how do we ever return to normal without major crisis? And by normal, I don't mean "2019", but rather a state of affairs where governments tolerate Covid-19 infections and treat it like the respiratory virus that it is.

Mind you, if you want to start up some kind of forum or network, that's fine -- the Green Wizards forum and a geomancy group are among the fora that have spun off my blogging, and I have no objection to that. One way or another, however, I'm just going to keep on doing what I'm doing.

I'm gratified to see that I'm far from the only one who suspects the involvement of malevolent djinn (hungry ghosts, wicked faeries). I really do believe that we have allowed these beings to turn our society into Thanksgiving Dinner at grandma's house every day for them.

I think that if the schools were closed, that's one thing. But I know a lot of kids who are worked up because they might find out when they get up that their schools are closed for a week or two (seriously, it's happened here); who have had basically all of their extracurriculars cancelled (music lessons, sports, etc. are all deemed "too dangerous"); who are forced to wear masks outside; if their parents will even let them. And then they have to hear all this propaganda about how dangerous they are to others, and how dangerous everyone else is to them.

So I do think a lot of kids are going to have long term issues because of the way our society has gone totally batshale about Covid.

That could be part of it certainly, but it doesn't explain why there would be more infections in areas with more genetic vaccinations relative to areas with fewer vaccinations. It really appears that these vaccines are acting to increase the overall level of viral transmission in the population, which is being blamed on the infectiousness of Delta - despite the fact that the Delta variant is present worldwide but is not causing the same level of illness in many less-vaccinated places.

I am trying to insert immune tolerance into the conversation, because I think it needs to be seriously considered along with ADE, OAS, and the other potential issues, and I think we might already have evidence that it is occurring.

Mark L

Just felt compelled to mention the death rate for COVID itself according to this site is 1.4% (acknowledging estimates vary.) Which would mean the vaccine is WORSE than the virus. Just saying. And it seems like that’s WITHOUT the ADE and TIA, etc. Just deaths from the vaccine.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/

I dunno, sounds pretty phony to me. More fear porn for the true believers. Stinks of pysop.

A good friend had an interesting bout last week. She is pregnant, 36 weeks, healthy grass farmer, age 31, unjabbed. She had heart attack symptoms, was rushed to hospital. All kinds of tests run, no sign of heart damage, nurse detected severe magnesium deficieny and put her on an IV drip of mag--most symptoms gone almost immediately. Cardiologist more or less said it couldn't have anything to do with minerals or nutrition and made her stay at the hospital another 2 days to do umpteenth tests. On the 4th day he declared she had myocarditis but with no known cause.

She spends tons of time interacting with all manner of people at a very busy farmers market in the city every weekend. She, her husband, and my wife and I are all wondering if perhaps her condition was brought on by exosome shedding from people jabbed with the mrna serum, as has been reported.

Hard not to think the serum is closer to a weapon than medicine...

No, but given that some viruses can cause cancer by messing with DNA, it strikes me as plausible.

Which is an interesting point and seems like a tacit admission that vaccines don’t work or don’t work as advertised. After all if the vaccinated are getting it and dying of it in sufficient numbers to blame the unvaxxed…

I am curious about something else too. I wonder about the significance of October 18. That’s the date that Washington state and Oregon chose for all state and medical workers to be vaccinated. Then I believe Biden gave the same date for anyone working in nursing homes. It seems odd that they all chose the same date.

Get in where without an invitation)

https://leftlockdownsceptics.com/2021/09/the-mask-of-your-enslavement

I have had a rather odd experience with music over the course of the past 18 months, which, based on your post, may be an interesting data point for you.

So, I am not a naturally musical person. I'm not totally tone deaf, but music was never something that I had particular talent for, if you know what I mean. I never studied music beyond recorder classes in elementary and junior high school. Music just wasn't something I showed much promise in, and it never got pursued.

A few months into the covid madness, I was seized, seemingly out of nowhere, by a desire to play music. I looked into various instruments, suddenly very determined that I was going to learn to play something. I wound up just going with the recorder again, because it's inexpensive and relatively accessible. I bought two of the better-quality brand of plastic recorders (an alto and soprano) with some basic books to start re-teaching myself the notes, and eventually found and took some online beginner lessons through a music society. While I have no delusions of ever becoming a great musician, I have been practicing diligently since last year.

This is weird and hard to explain, but I felt like learning music was somehow protecting me. I'm in my 50s, I haven't played a note since 8th grade, and here I am urgently buying a pair of recorders and practicing daily to learn basic tunes. I won't say it's an obsession, but there has been an element of mild compulsion to it - like this was just something I HAD to do, and had to do ASAP. What's more, I have consistently found myself particularly drawn to grabbing the recorder and practicing after being exposed to "covid crazy" in person or online.

Given what you have to say about demons and music, this whole music thing is now even more strange. I never gave any thought to demons or how they related to music. And yet....what the heck did I know and how did I know it?

Stephen King wrote a story that’s pretty good, appeared in Esquire magazine last October. Not even a hint about the King in Orange. Maybe he’s recovering from TDS (please, God, I miss my cheerfully macabre Uncle Stevie!).

Or maybe it’s 50 years old and he dug it out of his files. Either way it’s worth reading.

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Cancer diagnosis after the shot?

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more data points

If you need a laugh

Bellingham WA meetup

Re: Forbes article on the effects of Covid restrictions on schoolchildren.

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Re: Cancer diagnosis after the shot?

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Re: Demonic Influences on COVID vaccine divinations.

Long but well-worth reading article on the cacomagic of masks

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