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Hello!

Over the years you made several comments about an ancient tradition that consisted of arranging marriages so as to increase the psychic powers of the offsprings. It appears that the timing of the marriage and the period of birth of the offsprings were also of importance in that respect.

(1) If the above is more or less correct, could it be that the birth of Jesus Christ was arranged in such a manner?

(2) And could it be that the persistent rumours of Jesus having offsprings that subsequently intermarried within european nobility with similar aims also be based on historical facts?

(3) Do you happen to know of any valid works on the above?

(4) Finally, some time ago, I came across a TV documentary that described an ancient Indian tradtition that went along very similar lines. Any thoughts?

I thank you in advance for your comments.

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1) That theory has been in circulation in some alternative-culture circles for about a century and a half. The claim that he was the illegitimate son of a Roman soldier has been around a lot longer -- that's the story in the Toledot Yeshu, which was certainly around by the 9th century and may go back much further.

2) Those persistent rumors were manufactured in the very late 20th century by specific, readily identifiable people, who were riffing off Pierre Plantard's notorious "Prieure de Sion" hoax. (There's a nice summary of the hoax here.)

3) None that I'd consider reliable.

4) You'd have to ask someone with a background in Indian spirituality, which I don't have. The claim in some British occult circles is that there was such a tradition in very ancient times in a land area that drowned at the end of the last ice age, that survivors of the Sacred Clan (the group thus inbred) reached safety in Britain, and that's why the Celts have family lines in which "second sight" is common. Several attempts to do the same thing in modern times have taken place, without noticeable results; if that approach works, it probably takes centuries of careful breeding of precisely chosen bloodlines.

Edited (typos) 2021-05-31 17:56 (UTC)

Garth Ennis, a comics writer did a series called _Preacher_ which featured an organization (The Grail) that had been inbreeding the Jesus bloodline for generations. Their current product was an idiot-as one character says, roughly, "Holy blood or not, no good comes of marrying your sister." The main character is trying to locate God and call him to account for having messed up His creation and then deserted it and there are riffs on Western film tropes, including visions of John Wayne. Not for kids--much violence, irreverence and sex. But interesting. Did I mention there is also a blue collar Irish vampire? A lot of thoughts about redemption, revenge, regret.

Rita

A thought occurred to me: perhaps the tales of a married Jesus and his continuing bloodline are what you get when you wed the common ancient myth of married divine siblings and the idea of gods incarnating as human beings?

3) I would take this a step further than JMG; you are essentially asking for one of the inner secrets to royal bloodlines... not the sort of thing that is going to end up in print. What you may notice is oblique references to it in other places that assume you are already familiar with the idea.

Hmmm ... As a Medievalist, actual Royal "bloodlines" are a hot mess, and most Royal genealogies have far more to do with claims of legitimacy than with any real genetic inheritance. Those myths are powerful, but they lack any foundation in the material plane.

I suppose that this is the usual situation in any lineage that has amassed a lot of wealth and status over the centuries: it soon becomes a lineage of rogues, scoundrels and poltroons, and loses whatever nobility and wisdom its founder may once have had. Lord Acton's dictum and all that ...

A not so secret fact about these royal bloodlines is just how inbred they are. Things like the Habsburg Jaw come to mind. Whatever occult powers, or other secrets, the original founders of these dynasties might have had, I'm guessing the genetics of these families isn't so healthy and powerful these days. That actually brings up a sort of bizarre question: could the frequent intermarriage between these European royal families be a factor in how many were eventually toppled? There must be an occult aspect to inbreeding, or so I would assume. In fact, I'm now rather curious about what occult aspects there are to reproduction, passing along occult traits to descendants, etc.

Riffing off Robert's and Brenainn's replies, it occurs to me that if the royal and aristocratic houses of Europe had psychic powers, how come they walked face first into the buzzsaw of the First World War and its aftermath? Lots of people saw that coming, but the royal houses of Germany, Austria, Russia, and half a dozen other smaller countries, to say nothing of a vast number of aristocratic houses with royal blood in them, did precisely nothing to stave off a catastrophe that resulted in most of them losing their thrones, their wealth and (in a good many cases) their lives.

Edited (typo) 2021-05-31 21:18 (UTC)

To play devil's advocate here, the proposed theory is that these psychic powers were created by deliberate inbreeding. Since that tends to also interfere with brain function, with extensive inbreeding leading to some of the most spectacularly idiotic people in history (with many being European royalty), it's possible they managed to attain psychic powers at the cost of horrific stupidity. In other words, those of them who could see it coming were too stupid to know what do about it. Which actually fits really well with the universe's warped sense of humour: sure, your program to breed for psychic abilities worked, but at the cost of making those who can sense what's coming too dumb to do anything about it....

Maybe that's what happened to Atlantis!

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