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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2021-05-30 11:38 pm

Magic Monday

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***This Magic Monday is now closed. See you next week!***

(Anonymous) 2021-05-31 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
Talking with people I know who are into occultism, I’ve seen a weird pattern emerge in the past few months: a lot of people who claim to be into magic and the occult also claim to basically never read books and often lack anything approaching a full liberal arts education. This has struck me every time I’ve heard it as truly bizarre. I'm heavily informed by Dion Fortune, who writes in _The Training and Work of the Initiate_: "The good occult student should have a sound general knowledge of natural science, history, mathematics and philosophy," and goes on to explain that in order to successfully undertake esoteric studies one benefits from a good grounding in the exoteric. All of that said, I like to keep my snobbery closely in check and I value open-mindedness and flexibility. What’s your opinion on the degree of importance for aspiring occultists having or attaining a broad base of general knowledge?

(Anonymous) 2021-05-31 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
Wait a minute... you mean I finally picked up on magic last year because I'd gotten the last bits of the foundation in place...
(Edison light bulb flickering on...)
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[personal profile] neptunesdolphins 2021-05-31 02:12 pm (UTC)(link)
That seems to be how many Neo-Pagans are - they read a book or just work off other people's blogs. Then there are a few whole I label "snobs (replace b with t)" They discuss how they know better and how idiotic the others are to the point of calling them "fluffy bunnies."

I would agree that you need a broad range of knowledge to understand how things work.
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[personal profile] causticus 2021-05-31 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
The #1 problem is that the vast majority of people today who claim they are doing 'magic' get almost all of their knowledge and insight on spirituality and occultism from pop culture rather than from traditional sources and competent-experienced practitioners.