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Dear JMG,

A few weeks back, I asked a question on here about psychedelics and their effects on the subtle bodies. I was wondering how this would apply to other intoxicants, such as alchohol, or cannabis? What would be your advice in partaking of such things in a safe and healthy manner?

Also, you mentioned that hypnosis does not go too well with Golden Dawn magic. Would I be advised to stop using guided hypnosis audios when I undertake the CGD?

Thanks!

Luke

1) Use 'em in moderation and never do practices while you're still feeling the effects.

2) I'd recommend dropping them, yes.

Thanks! - Luke

Here's a little more Law of One that seemed relevant, talking about LSD including some mention of non-physical effects. I revisit this material like every 5 years or so and keep seeing more in it as I've learned more occultism and other stuff:

https://www.lawofone.info/results.php?q=LSD

Dion Fortune said this in Applied Magic:

The part played by drug addiction in the seamy side of occultism has been greatly over-rated. The drugs used are of the vision-producing type, such as anhalonium and hashish, and these are not drugs of addiction in the West. In the quantities in which they are used for occult experiments they are unlikely to do permanent harm.

The drugs to which people become addicts are those which either produce exhilaration and immunity to fatigue, or those which deaden consciousness and make a troubled life more bearable; under neither of these headings are to be found any of the vision-producing drugs. No one is likely to induce vision by their use sufficiently frequently to run any risk of addiction; and in any case, anhalonium is not habit-forming.

The risk to which these drugs expose those who use them is psychic, not physical; they may, if the experimenter is not an expert occultist, thoroughly competent in sealings and banishings, lay their user open to psychic invasion, and even obsession, because they open the doors of the astral to the unprepared consciousness, and as every swimmer knows, it is one thing to swim out, and another to swim back. I am not prepared to deny that they have a place in occult research, but such research should only be undertaken by those who are properly equipped, both as to their occult and their scientific attainments, and is in every way undesirable when done by those who are merely seeking a new thrill.

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I found that passage interesting when I first came across it because cannabis doesn't always have a reputation for being vision-producing. I have had visions while under the influence, but only when I've been using it on occasion/after a long hiatus and also while I've been keeping up a regular meditation practice. And who knows how true those revelations were... When I've done qi gong while under the influence and with my eyes closed, I can *really* feel and sometimes see the energy moving around. It's probably healthier not to mix the two, but I also feel the movement much less explicitly in this case.

It doesn't have this effect for me if I use it more regularly. To the contrary, I will stop dreaming. I might have a vague recollection of JMG or someone else saying it can make your aura more opaque? I've felt more shut off from people with regular use.

Please read my comments as another vote for moderation, if at all! And note that I don't do any ritual magic, so again I defer to JMG here.

It is worth remembering that despite some biologists protests to the contrary, different types of alcohol have some very different effects. Mead, rum, and wine for instance, are all used in certain rituals and are, too my mind, most emphatically NOT interchangeable.

I don't have any firsthand experience with cannabis, but I do know that some Sufi groups use it. Interestingly, they regard prior secular use as a disqualifier for using it for spiritual purposes. There is a sizeable body of alchemical lore in Persian and Arabic centered around ingesting and transforming a wide variety of substances.

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