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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2020-09-03 11:24 pm

Things Get Seriously Weird...

KekDuring this week's Magic Monday, one of my commenters -- tip of the Druidical hat to Seasidehermit -- noted that people on one of the popular Neopagan online forums were talking about a sudden distance opening up between them and their gods:  the gods they pray to have gone silent or, in some cases, gone away completely. (You can find two of the many examples here and here.) In the light of what follows, it's probably worth noting that the Neopagans in question are among those for whom yelling "Orange Man Bad!" and praising the latest excesses of cancel culture and woke activism are standard social habits. 

I was interested enough in this to follow up on it -- and what to my wondering eyes should appear but several comments (here's one of them) by Neopagans who have had their gods go silent, but are now suddenly noticing strings of repeating digits on clocks and other digital readouts. 

That is to say, they're seeing "gets." 

For those readers who didn't follow the Kek Wars in the months leading up to the 2016 election, or missed my four-part blog post on the subject (Part One, Part Two, Part Three, Part Four), a "get" was slang in alt-right forums (such as the notorious "chans") for sequences of repeating digits in the numbers automatically assigned to posts by forum software. One of the many weird features of that memorably strange election season was that posts dealing with Donald Trump fielded improbable numbers of "gets." (The most famous of these was a random post on 8chan on June 19, 2016, which said simply "Trump will win," and got the post number 77777777.) The cascades of "gets" was among the things that convinced a great many alt-right chaos mages during that election that they had somehow come into contact with the ancient Egyptian frog god Kek, who had taken Pepe the Frog for his mascot and who had chosen Donald Trump as his anointed candidate. (As I said, it was a memorably weird time.) 

And now Neopagans who are opponents of Trump are being quietly left in the lurch by the gods they worship, and at least some of them are seeing the signs of Kek's presence...

Something very strange is stirring, in the midst of this extremely strange time.

I'd like to ask my readers this: are you experiencing any particular sense of distance opening up between you and your gods? And are you seeing "gets"?
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[personal profile] ecosophian 2020-09-04 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Here's a couple of interesting comments on the page you linked in the post.

1) During a meditation I encountered a group of spirits sitting around a campfire, including the Dagda and na Morrigna. I asked what I could do to help during this Storm, and was told specifically: "Batten down the hatches. Get to a safe place before the snow starts to fly. Not much can be done before spring."

2) "It feels more to me like the intense quiet before a storm hits. Yes, it's quiet right now, but there's an ominous feeling to it. Honestly, this entire summer season has felt like this, dark, brooding, much more like summer's end. If we're in the mother of all storms, we're in the biggest eye anyone has ever seen...I think the crisis will hit around first frost."

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That is to say I think they're not going to like the outcome the elections in November. I'm afraid its going to cause a meltdown of epic proportions, the Democrats already call to refuse the results of the elections should Trump win. Look up the "Red Mirage" theory they are peddling. That sounds like something from the Cold War era (the Red Scare?). There will probably be mass rioting and chaos and then the Insurrection Act will be invoked. That's what I think anyway.

And to answer your question, JMG, no on both accounts.
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[personal profile] methylethyl 2020-09-04 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
It'd be awfully nice if they just rolled over, instead of trying to burn the whole country down.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-05 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
When I read about the "Red Mirage" theory, I instinctively took it as a tacit admission the Democrats are gearing up for a massive vote fraud campaign via mail in ballots, ballot harvesting and related shenanigans. The way I see it, the Dems are tossing that theory out in advance to explain away the inevitable discrepancies.

It's a clever move, but I don't think it will work. The Trump administration, the Department of Justice, the GOP and conservative activists will be expecting the Democrats to do exactly that and will be watching them closely. Moreover, the Dems have already telegraphed their punch and I know for fact that I am not the only one who suspects that is what the Democrats are up to. I have seen reports that many Republican political operatives and conservative journalists have already reached the same conclusion.

When people start getting caught and the Democrat vote fraud schemes are exposed, it will blow up in their faces like a Mk-84 2000 lb bomb going off on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier loaded with planes and ordnance. If the Democrats double down with another big round of orchestrated rioting after the election, at some point Trump will use that as a pretext to invoke the Insurrection Act and crush his enemies once and for all, particularly if he and the Republicans win big in November and feel they have a popular mandate. Late 2020 could end up becoming a bloodbath for the Democrats, not just figuratively, but literally. Grand Mutation indeed!
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pure imagination

[personal profile] ecosophian 2020-09-05 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
Oh dear gods, sometimes my imagination runs wild.
I just imagined Trump invoking the Insurrection Act as if in a magic ritual. He stands in the Oval Office and declares: By the Great Seal of the United States and the bald eagle soaring high and in the name of Ulysses S. Grant I invoke the Insurrection Act. May all my enemies be crushed once and for all!
Edited 2020-09-05 15:55 (UTC)

Re: pure imagination

(Anonymous) 2020-09-05 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)
In my mind's eye, I could very easily see him performing the ritual you outlined while surrounded by a ring of Alt-Right Chaos mages from the basement brigade, like that scene from Eyes Wide Shut and other Hollywood depictions of dark occult rituals.

Re: pure imagination

(Anonymous) 2020-09-06 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
All dressed as Uncle Sam, of course.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-07 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Ironic that the dems have also been running on tear-stricken pleas of "saving our democracy" whilst simultaneously and imperturbably inciting voter fraud and planning to disrespect the outcome even of a fair election if it doesn't go their way.

[personal profile] tolkienguy 2020-09-05 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
This was the first I'd heard of this "red mirage" business, but it honestly strikes me as something more sinister-preparing the ground for a protest movement/attempted color revolution if Trump does win.

And I wouldn't count such a thing out. I live in a midsized southern city, and the wokester/BLM crowd seem to have a fairly substantial base in the downtown proper. Sure, the surrounding countryside is heavily dominated by conservatives, but team SJW would easily take control of the city center if something went down...and I'm increasingly thinking something might go down.

Back in high school/early college, I developed an intense interest in the history of the Balkans, and read several accounts of the breakdown of Yugoslav society in the 1980's, the collapse of cross-ethnic institutions, and the gradual polarization of most of the population into mutually hostile ethnic camps. I never, ever imagined I'd watch something recognizably similar happen in the US...but here we are. And its terrifying.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-05 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
If you don't mind me asking, how is a Trump landslide 'increasingly likely' despite Biden being 8-10 points ahead on average over the last three months? Is there something I've missed?

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source (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-53657174)
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[personal profile] neptunesdolphins 2020-09-06 01:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I have an extensive background in statistics. Getting a sample is difficult. One thing that poll takes have relied on is landlines, not cell phones. So the poll gets skewed. Also, the poll is not truly private unless the person answering the phone is alone.

The other problem is phrasing the questions to be neutral. How do you do that without tipping your hand.

Then there is the mathematical model. All predictive models are based on previous data. So they are using the past as a predictor of the present. People argue over which equations are valid and which are not. It is a constant review process.

Finally, there is the massaging of the data. i.e. judgmental additions by modeler. It is the equivalent of putting your thumb on the scale.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-05 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
I'm very new at having a relationship with a goddess, and very tentative in my approaches to her since contact began about a month ago. I have a lot of fear about it, but the aspect she's revealing has so far been kind. I also am very preoccupied (for my whole life so far) with questions of how to be useful, worries about uselessness, plus intermittent workaholism etc., and she consistently indicates to calm down, rest, and wait until January for further instructions.

I struggle with patience generally, so am not doing great at aligning with those instructions, but trying/muddling on and hoping January brings more clarity.