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Alan LeoIt's almost midnight, so here we go with a new Magic Monday. The picture is of Alan Leo (real name William Frederick Allan), a prominent British Theosophist and one of the prime movers of the late 19th century revival of astrology. 

Ask me anything about occultism and I'll do my best to answer it. Any question received by midnight Monday Eastern time will get an answer, though it may be Tuesday sometime before I get to them all.

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With that said, have at it! 

***This Magic Monday is now closed to new questions. See you next week!***

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Date: 2018-12-03 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] guillem66
Some days ago i did my first scrying, on the air gate.

I did everything as you writed, open grove, SOP, yellow color breathing.

I obtained a clear scene, which im now interpreting through meditation.
But as soon as i seen the scene, the vision faded to black, and i was totally unable to regain focus. It was as if another will was pulling me away. So i returned to the inner grove, and ended the session.

By the way the image has proven packed with meaning for now, so i din't come back with empty hands...

I assume that some will decided that for a beginer it was enough.

Is it normal?

Second, i assume a greater understanding on the nature of each element will make my rituals stronger?

And now, on spelling. I gather that one could consider a spell like a chapter on a tale, so it is ok to cast a spell several times, not to enlarge its effects, but to "write it" in our own reality more strongly?

Finally, yesterday i attended a buddhist Puja. The first since i have started the Mage path, and im feeling invigorated.Is that the balancing part of mysticism you talked about?
Edited Date: 2018-12-03 06:11 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2018-12-03 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm involved in a volunteer organization that's struggling to find people to help. We work with children and have no shortage of them, but it's hard to find adults willing and able to volunteer. I'm considering a working to address this.

The intention is to bring people suited to the group to us. I'm trying to be careful not to overwhelm anyone's will, but this would be bringing them to us, and letting them decide whether to volunteer, so I think it's safe.

I'm also not a hundred percent sure that I know exactly what "suited" means in this context. I'm thinking it means something along the lines of "willing and able to help", but I'm not sure that's all there is to it. Since I'm not a hundred percent sure what exactly I need to specify, I'm thinking of sticking with suited and leaving it to the higher powers I'm planning to invoke for the working to determine who is and is not suited.

The blow-back would mostly likely take the form of me finding lots of opportunities in volunteer work which I'm somehow suited for. Am I correct to think that I should plan to take such positions, since that would be bringing the working down to the material plane (in addition to the steps involved in looking for people for my own organization)?

Does this intention seem like it should work, and is there anything else I should think about?

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Date: 2018-12-03 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I've been doing magical training for a while, and found slow progress for a while, but something seems to have shifted recently, and I now find myself making quite rapid progress towards my goals. Oddly, the ritual seems about the same, but in nearly every other area of my life, it seems like I suddenly have much more willpower and focus.

Is it normal to have such sudden changes?

What is the Real

Date: 2018-12-03 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Is Magic(k) nothing more than imagination made manifest by willpower? Do we create reality by exercising our willpower, or does reality exist independent of our own consciousnesses? Is the whole point to occult "ritual" to organize and direct the willpower in a more focused manner to achieve results? Could I invent a spirit to call upon? Are all spirits / elementals called upon by occultists simply inventions of their minds? Or do these spirits exist independently from our thought-realities?

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Which Version?

Date: 2018-12-03 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] moondog79
I encountered your work just within the last couple months, have read "Magic Monday" every week, and purchased your book "The Celtic Golden Dawn." Having begun that work and immersed myself in the occult thinking, I am strangely finding myself drawn back to the Christian tradition (of the esoteric type, of course) and am now doubting my choice of Druidical Hermeticism. Perhaps one utilizing the Judaeo-Christian language is what I should be pursuing after all -- quite surprisingly. My question is, do you suggest going on with the Celtic Golden Dawn or going after a more "traditional" approach to the Golden Dawn system?

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Geomantic confusion

Date: 2018-12-03 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hello Mr. Greer, and thank you again for hosting these.

I recently cast a geomantic chart with the fundamental question "is it a good financial idea to spend some of my savings on a new musical instrument". The basic chart came up with Acquisito as the right witness, Conjunctio as the left witness, and Greater Fortune as the judge. I interpreted this as effectively "you're coming from a place where you both have the resources and you wish to use them to gain something more, it will be a good pursuit although the end result will contain some mixed sentiments."

However, when I looked at the house chart, I assigned the question to either the 2nd house or the 9th house, not being certain if it was a purely financial matter or if the purpose of the finances (the musical instrument) mattered, I thought I would read it for both. However, the house chart has cauda draconis in BOTH houses! This seems to be a very bad omen for the purchase, in both cases!

How should I consider the house result against the message of the judge and witnesses in a case like this?

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TSW: Link seen between planet and illness

Date: 2018-12-03 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The planet is Mercury, the disease melanoma. The science is possible poor. Certainly intriguing! Hypothesized to involve streaming heavy particles.

Ol' Bab

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Date: 2018-12-03 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I've been thinking about the phrase "before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water, after enlightenment, chop wood, carry water," and while it's probably not meant to be interpreted this literally, a part of me is wondering if enlightenment requires mundane work, not literally chopping wood and carrying water, but something like it.

This would seem to imply that the modern western world, with the abundance of "effort saving" technologies (really, skill saving technologies) would be a very difficult place to achieve enlightenment. Do you know if anyone else has explored this line of thinking, and if yes, do you know where I could look for it?

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Lunar Timing

Date: 2018-12-03 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

As a beginner step to learning astrological timings, I've started following the moon timing and aligning it with my work.

I'm trying to start new projects during the waxing moon and trying to refrain from starting new jobs during the last days of the waning moon or during void-of-course times.

My question is: what constitutes the beginning of the job? When a potential client first makes contact? When the contract is signed? When I start work? What is the specific action that counts as "new"?

I suppose the other question - is this a good beginner exercise? I don't feel like I have enough results from my experimentation to draw any conclusions yet.

Thank you for your Magic Mondays.

SoP Question

Date: 2018-12-03 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi JMG! Thanks for the forum. I have a question around the Sphere of Protection ritual. I've been doing the SoP regularly (at least 5 to 6 times a week) since January this year. I find it to be a very powerful tool and I certainly have felt TSW. I have a VERY toxic work environment and I've done workings to make sure it basically bounces off me. And does it ever! The power of the SoP allows me to not engage as much emotionally and truly see what is happening and why.

Saying that - here is where I need a bit of guidence. I'm wondering if I should make some adjustments to my practice since I don't notice the area around me being cleansed or different after the ritual. I feel better/relieved (ready to go into battle for the day!) but that doesn't seem to translate to me noticing the banishment around me. I'm not overly concerned just wondering if perhaps I need to concentrate more on the banishment around me in the ritual. Is it possible I'm so concerned with protecting myself that I am doing too much inward directing of each invocation and banishment?

I mostly lurk

Date: 2018-12-03 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I love these posts. I mostly lurk, and often find questions I've had answered.

The following is by way of a TSW data point.

Let's say there was a farmer who planted a forest next to a sheep pasture. When the trees were over 10-15ft tall, he decided it made sense to run the sheep in through the forest now and then to keep the grass and weeds down without using weedkiller. All good, and this system was working well for 4 or 5 years.

Came a year when the sheep took a shine to the bark of all the ash trees. The farmer later found out that they were missing a mineral, and this eventuality might have been prevented with mineral lick made available before and during their forest time. However, hindsight did not prevent all the ash trees from suffering damage, some of them looking quite "ringed".

The farmer's wife, who was then a wannabe, but know-nothing, druid, greatly inspired by ADR and WOG, set her mind to what might be done to save the trees from dying, and moreover, to help them develop a defense against sheep hunger (she was thinking along the lines of trees famous ability to make their bark taste bad, or somesuch). Anyway, around this time a lamb died of natural causes, and the wife, seeing an opportunity, volunteered to bury it.

She spent time thinking about this, and went into the forest, talking all the while to the trees, saying, "I am bringing you a lamb, and I will bury it here, please learn through your roots, what a lamb is, learn what a sheep is, and learn how to defend yourselves against the hunger of sheep."(There were some other efforts she directed at a healing intention, but they are not the point of this story).

The following spring, she was pleased to see that the vast majority of the ash trees had survived, and were putting up buds, even though most were pretty ugly looking. The farmer, meanwhile, set out some mineral licks for the flock for about a week before running them into the forest, and kept a good eye on the trees, and it did seem to have diminished THEIR appetite for ash tree bark. However...

When he took the flock out of the forest around a week or so later, he missed a lamb, and searched high and low, but couldn't find it. So he wrote it off as maybe having fallen into the river flowing at the bottom of the forest. But the following year, after running the sheep through the forest, he missed a lamb again. This time he found it. This time he showed what he found to his wife. This time his wife got ALL the heeby jeebies and chills consonant with a TSW moment. What she saw was that a lamb had tried to jump through a gap between two trees, but had become trapped and died, almost as if the tangled roots had caught its foot, in a place where it would eventually be a nice heap of compost.

So she thought, "hmmm, what have I done? have I given these trees a taste for lamb?" And she wondered what to do. In the farmer's view, the trees and the sheep were both crops, but as such were also firmly under his sacred bonded duty of care. This put them in a situation that is very far from "nature", but not at all uncommon on a farm, though many city people may never understand this. The ideal would be if they could co-exist in each other's company, with neither eating the other.

Ultimately, feeling very humble and chastened, the farmer's wife formulated a working that included bringing some dead, fallen twigs, from the forest and tying them into the wool of the lead ewe (there's always one), and talking, talking, talking to her about how the trees, like the sheep are under the farmer's care, and how sheep need to learn the trees, both to befriend them and defend themselves from them. Back to the forest to explain the same thing, that the sheep, like the trees, are under the farmers care, and that the trees need to learn the sheep both to defend themselves from them, and befriend them.

Well, being the wife, and wannabe druid, I have a feeling that none of these workings were too polished or fancy, but the intention was strong, and maybe too effective for comfort. It has been four years since these sheep ate any tree bark, and two years since (as I see believe happened) trees ate any sheep. I have my fingers crossed that peace may have broken out. Still waiting and seeing. My nerves are receding a bit, and I am now extremely much more reluctant to "mess" without thinking.

Anyway, I thought that would interest you. Also, it's somewhat personal, so I'm keeping it anonymous.

Be well & thanks.

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Date: 2018-12-03 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi, Former Chump here. I've continued to take your advice and it's been working well for me.

Some stray impulse prompted me to check in on the social media of the guy who was such a problem for me. Turns out he'd just finished making a supposed art project that looks an awful lot like a set of talismans dedicated to people who've slipped his control. I have reason to think that what those things look like is in fact exactly what they're meant to be.

When the guy was in jail, I was pretty successful at making it difficult to find photos of me on the internet, and I doubt I'm first on his list of grudges. That said, I'm reasonably sure that at least one of these items he's made is a reference to me, and that he'll get around to magically hating on me eventually.

Maybe I'm being too laissez-faire, but I'm not as deeply concerned as one might be, given the prospect of being a beginner who's wound up in somebody's magical crosshairs. I know what he's like as an artist, and I doubt he's any less hamfisted as a magician. By nature he's a lazy, brute-force kind of guy who tries to make charismatic hyperbole do the job of skill, and he's unlikely to learn any lessons about raspberry jam. I'd expect him to know just enough to make a mess. That said, I'd rather not be part of that mess; if he's trying to meddle with me, I'd like that meddling to bounce off.

What's my due diligence here? Hoodoo baths for sure; that much I've got covered. I saw your mention of witch bottles and bent-nail amulets -- is it time for me to think about that?

Relaxation Meditation Post-surgery

Date: 2018-12-03 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I have been doing a 20 minute sitting relaxation meditation morning and evening as described in DH: imagining energy moving from the floor into my feet, up my legs, etc. Is there anything I need to alter now that I am recovering from knee surgery? Thank you.

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Date: 2018-12-03 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Former Chump addendum: I asked the I Ching for advice, and it told me 42, with the second line changing.

After some significantly helpful dreams featuring little brown owls, I've been donating to owl rescue as my way of saying thanks. It does seem like somebody owl-related (Minerva?) is keeping an eye out for me, and I appreciate it.


Texas stars

Date: 2018-12-03 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Do you know anything about the circled star emblem that is everywhere in Texas? It is ubiquitous, on houses on every street. I'm trying to buy a house now and I find it over the door, above the garage, tiled into the floor. It is a lot like a pentacle except for the star being filled in instead of outlined. I get that it is a patriotic reference to the Texas flag, but is there something else going on? Could there be a magical effect even when the people using it don't necessarily intend it?

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Date: 2018-12-03 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hello Good Sir,

I've very much been in the random exploration and casual reading/podcast listing stages of earning about magick but I'm looking to start developing a daily practice. I ordered your book Learning Ritual Magic and can't wait to dive in. In the meantime have been reading the posts here and on you other blog. Wonderful, clear and well developed information, thank you!

The challenge I'm having is with a background in Christian theology and years of searching I've ended up with a odd hybrid understanding of the divine. Mostly praying to the Elohim and finding, American Gods by Gaiman and The Holy by Quinn to be the closest analogy to my kind of conceptualization. (Jungian archetypes + Pantheism + social construction theory) or to put it plainly I have no idea what IS other than it seems like a lot is possible. Thus a plural Judao-Christian term like the Elohim has felt good for now.

Any thoughts or recommendations with this jumbled mess in mind?

Thanks for setting aside so much time to respond to us. It's meaningful and appreciated.


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Date: 2018-12-03 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

I read recently that someone (a shaman type) who met Hillary Clinton said that he instantly thought she was full of demons. She was like a robot with no trace of humanity. If this is true, would she have had to do some pact with the demons (to get political power say) or could they just take her over to further their ends?

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Re-energize honey jar?

Date: 2018-12-03 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mesosylvania
Several weeks ago, I made a honey jar, with just my name 9x on a torn grocery bag, with the intention of making myself more likeable, as you have suggested. It's just been sitting there, with no noticeable effect, and I wonder what I might do to "fire it back up"? I never did any candle work with it, but I'm open to it, and have a bunch of white tealights. Any recommendations?
From: (Anonymous)
Hey JMG,

I am planning to complete my candidate initiation on the winter solstice coming up and I had some questions regarding preparing.

Without going into details, there is a fair amount of visualization during the course of the ritual. I was hoping to memorize it, rather than using notes, but I’m not certain that I would be able to sufficiently memorize it and not missed some things. Given that I’m only just beginning my training, I also wondered if you had some comments about the process with someone who is not terribly gifted at creating strong mental images at this point. Given that I am only just beginning, I don’t really expect all kinds of fireworks, but I wanted to do the best that I could given that it is a significant first step.

I was hoping to do it outside at the beach before sunrise so that it coincides with the rising of the sun, but the winter solstice is associated more with midnight. What do you think about that?

Thank you as always,

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Date: 2018-12-03 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I consulted my card oracle today, asking for guidance about what I should work on next if I wanted to keep my magical practice moving as well as it's been moving lately. The answer came back that I had a lot of repressed anger and rage buried way back in my past (something that was easy enough to account for once it was pointed out; I was raised in a devout Southern Baptist household where magic was Satanic, was forced to go to church 4x/week even though the Christian god never spoke to me, got my ass whipped every time I turned around or looked cross-eyed at either of my parents, and so forth, despite the fact that I was valedictorian, class prez, soccer captain...for Christ's sake) and needed to be drawn out and dealt with.

My mind immediately went to the journal dialoging you often recommend. Discursive meditation seems like another good place to spend some time.
Any other thoughts for getting this dealt with? I like the idea of an appropriate amulet or talisman. (I'm physically shaking right now, like my body, or something inside it, knows we're about to throw down...)
Thanks a bunch!

Hoodoo bath

Date: 2018-12-04 12:03 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

My wife broke a mirror last Thursday and was very upset about the bad luck it might bring. I thought this might be a good opportunity to use a Hoodoo bath. I mixed cool water, a splash of vinegar, dash of Cayenne pepper and wiped down where the mirror had broken. Then had my wife stand in the tub and gave her a quick sponge bath. I took the tube of water across the street, across the train tracks and dumped it under a tree then wiped out the tub with the cloth. Tossed the cloth in the washer.
The next day my wife broke out in hives *everywhere*. My guess is allergic reaction. But I thought I would check to make sure I did not mess up somewhere.



Possible accidental Kundalini awakening

Date: 2018-12-04 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] sea_spray

I'm wondering if I might have accidentally had a slight kundalini awakening. I had been experiencing an excess of certain energies in my psyche and thought I might be able to redistribute this elsewhere by pulling energy from my lower chackaras and moving it up. While meditating I started trying to pull energy from the base of the spine chackra upwards. I started to get a feeling like a snake slowly crawling up my spine which is how you've described kundalini awakening as feeling. When I recognized this I tried to stop it but it continued its upwards progress and disapated at about shoulder height.

I'm currently reading Arthur E Powell's book on the energy bodies of man. And take his cautions in this area seriously.

My questions from this are:
Was this an accidental kundalini awakening?
Would it have done any damage(there was no pain), or cause any problem's in future?
Does it indicate that I might have done it before in a past life?

Thank you for your advice.

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Date: 2018-12-04 01:07 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Would you consider posting one of your excellent mundane astrology readings for France, what with a potential revolution on their hands?

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Date: 2018-12-04 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] daergi
Someone once quite close to me, we often knew each other’s thoughts, was having surgery and wasn’t expected to live. Though we hadn’t spoken in some years, I dropped everything and flew back to be there. He survived the operation though he has languished ever since, with complications that leave him a shadow-like representation. On the way home from the airport traffic came to a stop and a vehicle that wasn’t behind me (I looked in the rearview mirror as I was braking and there was nothing there) slammed into me at full speed. I seemed to be fine though multiple people did doubletakes between me and my crumpled car and said they couldn’t believe I had survived.

That was two years ago and I have steadily deteriorated in health where now I often wonder how long I’ll be around. Medical professionals look through me, and sometimes have left the exam without making any diagnosis or treatment plan. They dismiss whatever I say or go on talking after I’ve detailed a symptom without acknowledging that I’ve even spoken. It’s like we’re not in the same reality.

I’ve recently begun to wonder about the possibility of a connection between the two of us forged at the hospital bed and wanted your thoughts and recommendation.

General Oddness

Date: 2018-12-04 02:22 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

My mate surprised me this morning when he said he’d had a dream, or a waking dream, and saw me with my head cocked to the left making odd faces, and it seemed a painter had done slashes of primary colors over me, mostly yellow.

I do recall dream interpretation isn’t what’s done here, but since this sounded odd, and perhaps not a dream, thought I’d ask.

It does seem as he gets older (he’s 66) he sees and senses more unfamiliar sorts of stuff.

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