ecosophia | Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 5

The semi-open posts I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a huge number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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Cutekitten,
Oh, that is too funny!! This might be a good time to re-read the Dune series, actually.
Chris in VT

I'd second that - I keep getting Dune synchronicities, so might have to get a copy!

I started to read the first book and enjoyed it until Paul fell in love and everything came to a screeching halt.

The old Wheel Of Time books had a Fremen-ripoff civilization, so you might enjoy that if you haven’t already read them. The first 5 books are pretty interesting. I’m told the quality of the series dropped off after that so I read the fan summary of the others on tor.com.

I do not think it is fair to call the Aiel "Fremen-ripoff," as if nobody else ever lived in a desert and had a warrior culture (Paging Geronimo!).

That's why I never read the Wheel of Time even though my other Fantasy/SF reader friends raved about it. Then Robert Jordan has the audacity to die before the series is finished. Then Brandon Sanderson came and finished it ... or kept it going... or whatever.

I made the mistake of reading the first two books of the Kingkiller series by Patrick Rothfuss. They were very very good. It was a mistake only in that he hasn't written the last... and I really hope he does.

I remember waiting for the Dark Tower books to come out after the first three were written, which were already out when I first read them in the seventh grade, the same year I got into Clive Barker. Then in highschool Wizard and Glass finally came out. It was a number of years after that, when I was in my early twenties that the rest of the series finally came out. There was a certain incident that compelled him to get those bad boys out of his system!

Speaking of Clive Barker, a third book of the art was promised and never written. I really loved The Great and Secret Show and Everville. Those are on my re-read list too. Barker never did finish his Abarat series either, which I didn't really like as much as his other stuff anyway. Oh, well.

I've only read the first few Dune books myself, but got the whole set used a few years ago. I'm going to go in and read the rest soon...

Epic fantasy and fiction in general have saved my bacon this late summer / early fall. I really need an escape from this stuff, even as I want to keep up to date. A fictional place of refuge amidst an overbearing atmosfear.

Dark Tower reader from page 1

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I also wanted to say how grateful I am that JMG finished writing his Weird of Hali epic fantasy with tentacles! I'm looking forward to his book about the lodge in a midwestern America. That sounds FAB!

Dark Tower reader.

You're welcome!

As a reader, I passionately detest two bad habits that have been all too common among fantasy writers. The first is the series that just goes on endlessly without ever coming to a resolution (or, worse still, is left incomplete); the second is the series that winds up with a tomato-surprise ending in which all the magic goes away and now you all have to grow up and be good little consumers, kiddies. The former is common now, the latter used to be painfully common when I was younger; writers who engage in either one should be flogged.

Thus when I started The Weird of Hali, one of the first things I did once I was sure where it was going was to write the last 10,000 words or so of the final novel, and make a beeline for that point from then on. In the Gwyddons trilogy -- the new project -- I've got about 25,000 words written in the last volume, The Region of the Summer Stars, covering most of the crucial events in the denouement; I'll be finishing the ending of that book before the first volume, The Two Dragons, is published, and also doing more in the middle volume, The House of the Grail.

This right here is the reason why you are the only author I ever buy books in a series from without checking to see if the series is finished.

Thank you. That's high praise!

I also dislike stories where it turns out "it was all just a dream," or the magical and wonderful things were just in the character's imagination.

Chris K.

Oog. I tend to think of one of Dorothy Parker's bon mots when I encounter those: "This is not a book to set aside lightly. It should be flung, with great force."

The titles make me think these novels will be nicely packed with Druid Revival occultism!

Among other things, yes. My fondness for classic late 19th and early 20th century American occultism and fraternal orders has influenced things as well!

I was/am a big fan of the Wheel of Time. The first six were very good. Then quality crashes for the next 5 books, and then Jordan himself died and Brandon Sanderson was picked to finish the series based on Jordan's notes and he did an excellent job and the last 3 are very good (and the very very last scene in the last book was all Jordan - he wrote it when beginning the series because he always knew where he wanted to end up).

The first Dune book I really enjoyed.
The second and third were more of a downer because Paul turned into a tyrant himself. I was sad at the way he treated Duncan Idaho, for example.

With the first book in mind, though, the ivermectin must flow!

- Cicada Grove

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